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Marckus0513
Just Because

join:2003-01-11
Vernon, VT

Old News...

I believe that this news has already been discussed here...

But either way I feel that if Montgomery County wants to play hardball with Verizon with their FIOS deployment that Verizon should skip over Montgomery County and deploy in an area that will welcome them. There are many many areas that would love to have Verizon FIOS and Verizon should go there. If the government of Montgomery County wants to limit the growth of new services for their residents so be it!

Marckus

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

said by Marckus0513:

But either way I feel that if Montgomery County wants to play hardball with Verizon with their FIOS deployment that Verizon should skip over Montgomery County and deploy in an area that will welcome them. There are many many areas that would love to have Verizon FIOS and Verizon should go there. If the government of Montgomery County wants to limit the growth of new services for their residents so be it!

Marckus
I would agree with you but I have 2 points.

First, if Verizon wants to bypass Montgomery County, then they should be able to BUT they may NOT stop anyone else from servicing the county if they agree to the county rules. If any other company would like to wire up Montgomery County with fiber, then neither Verizon nor Comcast should have ANY say in the matter.

Second, Montgomery County is acting this way not to limit growth but because of Comcast's prior dealings. Do a search and you will see how Comcast provided, in many cases, sub-standard service and refused to even acknowledge the problem, much less fix it. The broadband bill of rights »Broadband Bill of Rights was in response to the way Comcast treated the county. "Make your bed, now sleep in it." Now Verizon is going to get the same treatment because of the level of trust that exists.

caco
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK

reply to Marckus0513

said by Marckus0513:

I believe that this news has already been discussed here...

Verizon should skip over Montgomery County and deploy in an area that will welcome them.
Marckus
Montgomery county is vey high income. Verizon is not going skip that area. Verizon wants access to those pocketbooks.
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LeftOfSanity
People Suck.

join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE

reply to moonpuppy
I don't know how true that is. I believe Comcast had to jump through the same hoops, thats why they want VZ to have to go through the same process they did, not get statewide fanchises.

I could be wrong though.



Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

reply to caco

said by caco:

said by Marckus0513:

I believe that this news has already been discussed here...

Verizon should skip over Montgomery County and deploy in an area that will welcome them.
Marckus
Montgomery county is vey high income. Verizon is not going skip that area. Verizon wants access to those pocketbooks.
I think you have it. Montgomery county knows they have deep pocket books Verizon want to get into so they are playing hard ball to get the best deal, and rather then bargain Verizon does what they always do sue.
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The older I get the more I prefer the company of my dogs over that of man kind.


Trinijoy
Premium
join:2005-09-12
Brick, NJ

Who else is Verizon going to sue? The Ice Cream parlor for making Ice Cream too sweet?



cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5
Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS

reply to caco

said by caco:

Montgomery county is vey high income. Verizon is not going skip that area. Verizon wants access to those pocketbooks.
No business is going to turn away a paying customer. However based on demographics of existing rollouts, middle class is actually the leading class of subscribers. Very high income does not always mean high subscription rates, that that is what really counts.
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Quis custodiet custodes ipsos?

childofosi

join:2006-07-05
Burtonsville, MD

reply to moonpuppy
Telecomm services in Montgomery County are deplorable. I'm a Verizon customer and I'd like to say the new whiz-bang-zip-FiOS service is horrible for this reason alone. Verizon migrates all of their existing customers on copper phonelines over to FiOS. What is the big deal? Well anyone who decides, 'I don't like Verizon's phone services, I think I'll switch' is in for a rude awakening. You can't. You are stuck! Verizon purposely did that to 'trap' existing customers. Verizon is losing their POTS(copper lines) like the flood gates opened in Rome. So to keep the few customers they have they are moving them to Fiber. This removes choice and options to the consumer. Now what do you call this boys and girls? A monopoly, that is right. Well, not totally, this is more an 'artificial' monopoly. You allow only your service on your fibers so your customers have no choice. I'll be filing a complaint with the Maryland Public Utilities Commission and naming a few of those very unwilling to assist Verizon employees in my complaint. Beware of FiOS. Get telephone services elswhere before getting the FiOS internet. You will be sorry if you don't do that first.


BarneyBadAss
Badasses Fight For Freedom
Premium
join:2004-05-07
00001

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I'm not sure I completely agree with your assessment...

I have FIOS; one phone line on Fiber one still POTS.. what's the big deal?

I sure wouldn't use the other broadband provider here in the county .... and personally, as soon as FIOS TV is available (I wish it were soon rather than later) I'll be saying buh-by ... I can hardly wait...

As it is; my tv pixilates and when I call the TV service; all they can say is "We can schedule a technician".... we'll see what they can do to fix this... but I tend to suspect it as being a case where the data can't be provided consistently to the converter box...


SD6

join:2005-03-26

reply to childofosi
This forum has had several threads about keeping copper phonelines. If you do file a complaint with PUC, please keep us posted.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

reply to childofosi
Umm yea, what "competition" are you speaking of? CLECS !!?? lol Yea, theres a true competition. You have no valid points. Youre talking about other companies that RESELL verizons product. Time to enter into the 21st century my friend. RBOC's Vs Cable Vs wireless. CLECS are a ridiculous form of telecom competition and its time for them to become extinct.

Nobody likes a middleman.



raw
War Eagle
Premium
join:2001-01-17
Madison, AL

reply to Trinijoy
No, they're going to sue Proctor and Gamble for not making their Crest toothpaste prevent cavities from all the ice cream they're eating.
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[BBR]raw
America's Army
BBR Enemy Territory clan founder


moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to childofosi

said by childofosi:

I'll be filing a complaint with the Maryland Public Utilities Commission and naming a few of those very unwilling to assist Verizon employees in my complaint.
Yeah, good luck with that.

Just to remind you, because of their dealing with Constellation Power Group and the recent electric deregulation screw up, they have all been fired and will be replaced with a new board.

rosh400

join:2004-01-14
Potomac, MD

reply to Marckus0513
I would rather that the county limited uncontrolled growth. That would be a better way to preserve quality of life in the county. We live in down county and every sq meter of vacant land is turned into more townhouses or "city homes" throwing more gas chugging SUV's on the same overburdened roads. In the process, remaining forest tracts are clearcut. Have you seen the development at I270 and Montrose. The developers were allowed to mow down every tree. Upcounty, I drive past large new developments throwing more cars on the same overburdened roads. I wish our elected officials would focus on this.


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