Daniel Berninger - conflict of interest? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16476547 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:47:33 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:47:33 EDT Re: Daniel Berninger - conflict of interest? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16555944 wtansill :
said by thegoldwater See Profile :

By that argument, Google should be taxed to help pay to run copper down the road.
You do realize that Ed Whitaker et. al. are arguing that very point, do you not? :huh:
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said by roamer1 See Profile :

That amount of money spent on wiring for just TV seems a little excessive. :uhh:
The grant money included running network cables as well as new computers. and to change out the excisting coax for the TV systems.
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said by Transmaster See Profile :

Here is how the RGTPF moneys where used on one project at a school here in Cheyenne. This school used the money to wire the whole building to cable TV to the tune of several 100 thousand dollars.
That amount of money spent on wiring for just TV seems a little excessive. :uhh:
This is great except for the fact, the local cable company had already wired the building for this same thing a couple of years before as part of the CableCo's educational TV in the schools program.
Beyond that, a lot of middle and high schools (more in the South, fewer in the Northeast and West) got wired for cable for free way back when, when Channel One came out.

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and zoder is right: if someone is honest about their association with an issue, it's not astroturfing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16477135 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:31:02 EDT Re: Daniel Berninger - conflict of interest? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16477046 kamm :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Daniel Berninger joined Tier1 Research in August 2004 as Senior Analyst covering telecom. Daniel has over a decade of experience that includes helping to launch three prominent VoIP startups - ITXC, Vonage, and Free World Dialup.
Sounds to me like astroturfing by a VOIP bought and paid for consultant who is lobbying Congress on behalf of Vonage. That makes some of his assumptions subject to doubt.
And exactly how is it astroturfing? Let me give you an example: astroturfing is when you defend cable co's and big businesses and the Mgihty Freak's interests at all costs while you never reveal your close ties to these businesses, posing as 'independent' voice - this is astrotufing.

However this guy shows his ties clearly - it's called "full disclosure" in journalism and I guess you haven't heard it 'cause it's a very unlikely act in Red circles...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16477046 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:19:14 EDT Re-election grease the palm fund (RGTPF) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16476926 Transmaster : Here is how the RGTPF moneys where used on one project at a school here in Cheyenne. This school used the money to wire the whole building to cable TV to the tune of several 100 thousand dollars. This is great except for the fact, the local cable company had already wired the building for this same thing a couple of years before as part of the CableCo's educational TV in the schools program. A great program where the cable industry wired school for free. Said cable company got the contract to re-wire the school. So in a since they where paid back for what they did a few years earlier. Nothing wrong with this of course from the point of view of the CableCo they would have been foolish to not bid for the contract. But the money was wasted it could have been used else where in another school out in in Laramie county that had not been wired up yet.
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Why should services subsidize hardware infrastructure?

By that argument, Google should be taxed to help pay to run copper down the road.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16476796 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:36:32 EDT Re: Daniel Berninger - conflict of interest? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16476757 Ahrenl : Agreed, but new entrants into the industry shouldn't be forced to pay into it until the power to disperse the funds are taken away from their entrenched competitors. They should have equal access to the funds; or service providers should be separated from infrastructure owners, as it should be. Then it would just be service providers collecting funds for the pipeline servicers, who would build improvement for everyone. This is just another problem created by the lack of free market. Unreproducible assets can't be used in competition if you want it to be free and fair. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16476757 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:30:48 EDT Re: Daniel Berninger - conflict of interest? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16476749 Zoder : Nice try but not quite accurate. Astroturfers try to hide where their funding is coming from and pretend to be grassroots.

Pulver's blog tells you exactly who Berninger works for and his history with voip.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16476749 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:30:13 EDT Re: Daniel Berninger - conflict of interest? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16476687 TKJunkMail :
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

No Doubt. But are you contending that the USF actually accomplishes what it is supposed to?
No. I think the whole USF should be dropped completely. It is just another unneeded tax accomplishing nothing. But if the tax exists, then VOIP companies shouldn't be left off the hook either.
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Daniel Berninger joined Tier1 Research in August 2004 as Senior Analyst covering telecom. Daniel has over a decade of experience that includes helping to launch three prominent VoIP startups - ITXC, Vonage, and Free World Dialup.
Sounds to me like astroturfing by a VOIP bought and paid for consultant who is lobbying Congress on behalf of Vonage. That makes some of his assumptions subject to doubt.
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