Re: What he says isn't wrong. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16502185 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:17:45 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:17:45 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16509472 vinnie97 : It's not purchasable when you have money-wielding superstars like Wade who just so happens to be a foul-magnet. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16509472 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 04:59:11 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16504582 moonpuppy :
said by King P See Profile :

Unless you believe the argument that we didn't really go to the moon and that it was all a publicity stunt done in hollywood... :D
SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! ;)

Or I'll punch you in the mouth. :D

»[video] Buzz Aldrin responds to stalker]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16504582 Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:59:03 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16504434 GhostDoggy : First, I think he is just performing cooperative PR with those he is doing business in in terms of the traditional HD providers, especially those he has agreements with for his own personal HD channels.

But I have to say, I have lost a lot of respect for this individual. In one hand he preaches high-definition, but in the other hand he allows those partners to reduce the definition of the channels he brings to them for rebroadcast.

Now, he acts like things evolve 'overnight', but they do not. I remember the 2400-baud days and the days in which T1's were the 'top of the hill' in bandwidth. Not we have 10-100 GigE in our cores and >10Mbps home connectivity solutions rolling out. Its not beyond anyone's lifetime reading this today.

The future is simple. Either the broadband market will fail, or it will continue to evolve to a point that HD streams in real-time will be a delivered product. He should look forward to that so Mr. Cuban's business can skip the middlemen and deliver his sermon directly to the HD-followers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16504434 Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:54:53 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16503663 King P : Unless you believe the argument that we didn't really go to the moon and that it was all a publicity stunt done in hollywood... :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16503663 Sat, 15 Jul 2006 01:02:15 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16502185 gwba : But he couldn't buy an NBA championship or intimidate himself one either. Considering the source, who cares.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16502185 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:15:51 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500793 wwdubbia :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Anyone besides me see irony in the technical quality increasing while the program quality decreases at an even faster rate? If I want "reality" I'll look out my window.
I think it's a natural byproduct. You have to produce more content faster... quality is bound to suffer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500793 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:16:53 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500499 kamm :
said by markopoleo See Profile :

But its not possible because the internet is made of "tubes", and you try to cram lots of stuff in these "tubes" its gonna slow down..:P
... your private 'internet'. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500499 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:28:27 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500489 kamm :
said by Wills See Profile :


There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it.

We aren't...
..so it's proven it's impossible, eh?

ROFLMAO, this is priceless. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500489 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:26:23 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500373 moonpuppy :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument.
We went from barely being able to control flight to going into outer space and out own moon in under 100 years.

We humans can do things if we try hard enough. ;) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500373 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:08:40 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500371 wwdubbia :
said by Nightfall See Profile :

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument.
I agree Karl

Broadband is a very young technology when you think about it. The first homes were being outfitted with broadband back in 1995. In 1996 is when @Home really started deploying to home in major cities. Gee, thats only 10 years ago. Who knows what will come in the next 10 years or 50 years for that matter.
and 3 years before that in the early 90's... 56k was groundbreaking to the average home user.

For Cuban to say that this is impossible is just to focus attention on his company. I remember when they said that CD's wouldn't replace cassettes, and if you had talked about something like the 'iPod' back then that would allow you to hold 10k songs in your pocket, you would have been locked up in the technoasylum.

There are different kinds of vision and Cuban obviously is short or narrow sighted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500371 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:08:30 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500243 Primis1 :
said by Wills See Profile :

quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.


There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it.

We aren't...

The guy is a pompous ass, and usually so full of himself it stinks, but he's not wrong on this one.
I couldn't agree more. He's not stupid (which is why he's a gazillionare, owns a pro sports team, and can rant on his blog and people will listen), and he's spot-on. We can't do this. We're not even close to being able to handle this.

That doesn't mean there isn't still a place for the technology though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500243 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:48:03 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500214 markopoleo : But its not possible because the internet is made of "tubes", and you try to cram lots of stuff in these "tubes" its gonna slow down..:P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16500214 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:43:23 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499805 bigjimc : I have the idea on how to broadcast the Superbowl without clogging the entire internet with everyone trying to connect to server banks streaming but I have yet to find someone to work with. Ironically I emailed Mr. Cuban two days ago and now it appears in a blog....

I can get it to work if I had three smart people and a bucket of cash. Instead I would prefer to get a utility patent and probably have some big oligopoly buy it up (like Network television).

It is simple solution too.

Just my 2 cents...Flame Lightly]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499805 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:43:21 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499777 RadioDoc : Anyone besides me see irony in the technical quality increasing while the program quality decreases at an even faster rate? If I want "reality" I'll look out my window.

Cuban's a tool, but until someone figures out how to efficiently broadcast real HD content to millions of Internet receivers at a time at a cost comparable to current television he's right. Even cable companies have come to this realization, pushing their digital distribution deeper into the network to save bandwidth. Broadcast technology (yeah, even good old OTA) is far superior to individual connections to each receiver since it costs the same to transmit to one viewer as it costs for ten million. Imagine HBO having to run a separate cable to every subscriber. That's essentially what we've got now for Internet video. It is grossly inefficient.

True multicast would help. Where'd that end up anyway?
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument.
I agree Karl

Broadband is a very young technology when you think about it. The first homes were being outfitted with broadband back in 1995. In 1996 is when @Home really started deploying to home in major cities. Gee, thats only 10 years ago. Who knows what will come in the next 10 years or 50 years for that matter.

He is right that HDTV is growing. People want to see more and more broadcasts of shows in high quality picture and sound. He is also right that we can't do that right now to millions of american homes over existing broadband. However, there are solutions that are being deployed such as fiber. New technology is on the horizon that will make bringing these things into the home a reality in the coming years.

Just not right now....

On a side note, am I the only one who actually admires Mark Cuban? True, he may be someone who overinflates himself, but the guy has a great business sense to him. Plus, I think of him as a pretty good entertainer. :)

Just my .02 cents.
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most people don't have high def sets yet so why do they need to stream high def? normal would be fine thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499601 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:13:08 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499507 GigahertZ420 : we don't need breathrough technology to deploy video to tens of millions of customers. We just need the last mile providers to get off their asses and implement a minimum of XX (double digit) MB download speeds.

If were talking HD streams then yes, we need signifcantly more investment. If we can get away with standard resolution video we could implement quite literally now in several markets.

The only one's even remotely capable of doing this is Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499507 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:57:54 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499506 peter_m : Well the part of "Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasn't been invented yet" pretty much covers all his bases. He will be right in all cases but he obviously is saying it WON'T happen. And like the original posting says, he is kissing up to cable companies.

The problem is that this breakthrough will probably come some time in the future... My personal opinion is that we will see it in this life time.

He probably just wants something from the big cable companies and just needs to sound credible to them. Has nothing to do with being technically right or wrong. Too bad he is arrogant about it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499506 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:57:47 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499503 Karl Bode :
quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499503 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:57:39 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499499 SandShark : He's a self-made pompous ass that can put his money where his mouth is. That makes him different than most other pompous asses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499499 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:57:17 EDT Re: What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499485 Ahrenl : He's not wrong, but he didn't say anything. All he said was that if there was no new technological innovation (which is, I guess what we'll get if the telco's get their way) then with today's technology you can't stream HD video to 10's of millions at the same time. Well, maybe with I2, but it's a dumb discussion because there will be technological advances, and there already are piles of improvements yet to be implemented. Of course if you let the duopoly restrict innovators from being able to do this, then yes he would be absolutely correct. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499485 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:55:46 EDT What he says isn't wrong. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499460 Wills :
quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.


There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it.

We aren't...

The guy is a pompous ass, and usually so full of himself it stinks, but he's not wrong on this one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16499460 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:51:09 EDT