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fiberguy
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The internet - it's not for everything.

Soon, people might learn that the internet, as it is today, is for surfing the web. It's too young to try to cram everything down the "tubes"...

Right now, C Voip providers are nothing more than data.. data is data, period.

The I providers have it right. They will have the ability to provide a quality voip product (so some just don't get it) because they can operate on a last mile / private network set up. They can control the quality on their own last mile, while seeing that the data travels on a clear path to the other end as close as possible.

The more and more crap that people try to put on the internet, today, the more we are going to hear the cry for anti-net nutrality.

Also, people need to learn how to let things regarding the net mature before giving it full responsibility. I look at it as giving an 18 year old a drink of liquor.. they may be an adult, but not quite ready to handle the drink.


LegoPower77
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join:2002-08-03
Midlothian, VA

I was gonna say, this appears to make the case for "anti-net neutrality."

And why shouldn't it? Price discrimination is a part of everyday life from airplane tickets to grocery coupons. Why should the government force FedEx to provide (and me to buy) only next day air delivery at a premium cost? It's good they have that option available, but I'm happy with 2 week ground shipping. Why can't pipe providers be allowed to price according to the individual customers' demands?

I think people get so passionate about "net neutrality" because they rightly see that if the content providers get charged a premium they will pass the cost onto us.

So it's either an egalitarian net where things work ok, or one where premium data, such as VoIP, gets treated VIP. What's the problem?
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"It is a melancholy reflection that liberty should be equally exposed to danger whether the government have too much or too little power."—James Madison
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Big Dawg 23

join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN

reply to fiberguy
I have ATT CV and it is very reliable. My internet from Charter is always on. 4-6 Outages in 3.5yrs is very good. Two of the outages were related to Damaged equipment by crashed cars.


grandpinaple

join:2006-01-03
New York, NY

reply to LegoPower77
The problem is that the pipe is finite so if someone is prioritized it will degrade your packets so you wind up with less quality service then now unless you pay more money a brilliant way to increase rates. If they want to build a second network out of their own packets that is fine, but I doubt they have such costly benevolent intentions in mind. I do think net-neutrality has been blown out of proportion and alot of fud is being passed around. This sort of threatens the freedom of the internet in that it will make it an elitist hangout because richer people will get prioritization moreso than we have now due to the bandwidth sale model of the internet now. Noone gets prioritized and we all pay the same rates. SLAs are a different can of worms so don't start.


fiberguy
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"So it's either an egalitarian net where things work ok, or one where premium data, such as VoIP, gets treated VIP. What's the problem?"

I am not sure what you mean exactly, but, the internet is not for everything, in my opinion. Why should someone's desire to use VOIP and save about $10 a month be more important than my use of the internet for what it was originally intended? With that, what makes my traffic any more or less important that someone's voip?

I just don't believe that the internet is intended for mission critical services to the end user at this time. I know mission critical exists, but that's to the ebays and amazon.com's of the world. They have to ensure THEIR side stays up and that's it. To the rest of us, I don't put ANYTHING worth while in the hands of the internet.

For telephone, there is good ol' ma bell, and then cable who has been a good contender in the game long before they came up with VOIP. I've been a classic digital phone subscriber for years now with NO problems what so ever.

So in the end, like I was saying, why should someone's phone call be any more important than my sending email or downloading, or hell, what ever I am doing in general over the internet. And again, it's DISCOUNTED fake phone that the rest of us have to compete with. I don't believe in rewarding one person looking to save a buck over the rest of us paying out the real money , the money that actually allows the internet to move forward.


flushls

join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA

A QWorst Troll!!


fiberguy
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Um, care to explain?


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