RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | What a... ...useless topic.
Apple has less than 5% of the hardware market and pure Apple apps are less than 4% of the software market. The new dual mode Intel Mac's Windows ability does not count, because (drum roll...) they are then running Windows and are no longer a "Mac" running OSX!
If the pure "Mac" play was so successful, Apple would not be courting the Windows market at all.
And as an aside, doesn't the guy playing the Mac on those commercials seem like the smart-ass know-it-all you knew in college who ended up working at Burger King in his 40's?
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The new dual mode Intel Mac's Windows ability does not count, because (drum roll...) they are then running Windows and are no longer a "Mac" running OSX
Funny, my Wife's MacBook has no Windows running on it, just pure and reliable OSX. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | So what? It'll not be running all those specialized Windows applications then will it?
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After all what competition has the cash incentive to go against microsoft and be poised to possibly win?
TRue linux could, but linux has never really had the funding behind it for the generic public. If someone ever decided to compete in the O/S market I keep hoping apple will.
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1 edit | said by David:I am really kind of shocked that Apple does not develop the OSx for PC's. This is a market they could really clean up in. Apple won't release OSx for PC's because they don't want to have to deal with all the hardware variations (and choices) that exist in the PC market. Apple would have to develop and support their own plug & play system, along with the support and inclusion of thousands upon thousands of hardware drivers. Apple wants to keep things right where they are now - on their own, tightly controlled hardware base. Do they really have a choice? As we can all finally see, their hardware holds no magic at all... in fact, it's quite simple and mostly off the shelf. People want to pay premiums for their Mac hardware to get OSx. I choose not. I like Windows XP. Have had no issues with it. I prefer the huge, massive abundance of hardware and software choices which are available for the PC and not the MAC (which is quite opposite of what the Mac vs PC commercials would lead people to believe). I don't think you'll see an official release of OSx for the PC anytime soon.
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Oh for crying out loud, would you PeeCee users get with it and learn that the correct word is "Mac" and not "MAC"? You show your ignorance everytime you type this! THank you.
The *only* reason Windows is more popular in the marketplace is because: it runs on cheap boxes and corporate IT guys make everyone use it because it perpetuates their jobs. If everyone in the corporate world had Macs, there would be little need for IT support. I know, because I can never rely on them myself, as they know nothing about Macs, and I do my own support--which is basically.. nothing. 
Who cares about gaming, if you are over age 25? I use my Mac to *make money* and I make *more* money when I am not troubleshooting a computer or figuring out what virus has screwed it up.
And Macs always will beat PeeCees in the graphic design world. Always. PostScript and PeeCees are like fire and water.
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said by RadioDoc:So what? It'll not be running all those specialized Windows applications then will it? And so what to that.
I have owned and used only Macs for the last 16 years. I dont see the need for any PC apps. Havent needed them so far, so I am not thinking I will anytime soon. I do web development and graphic design and everything I need is available for Mac, and usually its available first. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
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Who the hell are you talking to? I used "Mac", you dope.
If all you do are graphics and visuals then you've got an advantage with a Mac. Beyond that there is no reason to buy one except to show the world how "different" you are, which you also should be finished doing past age 25.
When you join the real world, let us know. For now you're just a ranting twit.
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HappyBunnyHi. Cram It.Premium
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kudos:1 | Hey Mr Bitter and Angry, who said I was talking to you? If you didnt say MAC, then why do ya think I was addressing you?
When you decide to open your closed mind and check out a computer without worms, viruses and trojan horses, let me know. For now, you're just showing your ignorance. |
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Uhhh... if you were to get on a Windows XP machine as a USER, instead of ADMIN, 99% of the crap out there would not affect you!
Making a couple of adjustments to the rest of the machine will make it just as bulletproof as your Mac! 
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That's the largest load of bollocks I have ever heard.
Once again a well run shop has very few problems outside of USER error and trust me they can mangle a Mac faster then a PC. 99% of a tech supports position in a large company is usually password resets its only rare a problem occurs. When it does occur it has nothing to do with Windows and is usually a user like you.
IT does not use Windows for job security they use it because it is fast, easy to use, easy to integrate and it doesn't cost bag load of money. If they wanted an expensive, proprietary system with NO software that is hard to integrate ad slow they would go with a Mac. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
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You replied to me, you twit. That's why I thought you were talking to me.
Evidently you Mac fanboys can't work forum software either.
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said by HappyBunny:Oh for crying out loud, would you PeeCee users get with it and learn that the correct word is "Mac" and not "MAC"? You show your ignorance everytime you type this! THank you. Perhaps some of us have jobs that involve usage of MAC addresses, and are used to logging those with caps on. Besides, it's really pointless to argue about who uses caps, and why that "makes them stupid". After all, I would imagine you'd have a meltdown if you encountered a real "computer problem" in the first place, judging by the "haterism" spewing from your mouth. Don't think just because Mac is BSD Core based that you are some kind of Uber Linux/C+ programmer. You probably only been to the Shell prompt 5 times in your entire life, and were only there to try something you found on Google. Next time your "make money" with your "Mac", just remember that there is a Windows PC user out there that is making 3 times as much as you are with their PC because all the OTHER software out there that was not based off of graphic design. And to be quite honest with you, Mac hasn't held the "best graphics tools" award in about 10 years, not sure where you've been. If I'm not mistaken, there is much more hardware available for the PC, and the software choices are better on PC for the graphics and video editing now. Also, the system bus on a Mac now is not what it used to be, in the days of SCSI busses, etc. Yep, now-a-days it's just another crappy Intel based PC wannabe, who has now decided to gain market share by running that "swiss cheese" O/S called Windows.
And by the way, this topic was pertaining to the Anti-Virus/Firewall software not being available for Mac's, not an O/S war. To be quite honest with you, if Mac users feel they deserve a reduction in rates for not being able to use McAfee, I want even more, because Comcast doesn't even support my O/S, so I won't be calling them for help EVER, unless I want to be told again that they don't support it. I use Slackware, so unlike "stupid Mac and Windows" users, I have to support my own, on my own. So before you call unknowns on the internet "stupid" for not bowing down to YOUR interpetation of the brand name, just remember, you're the one who footed the expensive price tag for a brand with limitations, while I am reaping the benefit of open source software, who has portals to Mac AND Windows. Thanks, have a nice day.
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