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| Time Zones Earlier this year, when crossing Hoover dam the clocks showed a difference in time from NV to AZ, since the time change they are the same now.
Does anyone know specifically how that works. I thought there was something on the news about NV and AZ being changed to the same time zone permanently. -- we're all connected |
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 sashwaPixie Cat Crunchin' n Foldin'Premium,Mod join:2001-01-29 Alcatraz kudos:14 | I believe AZ doesn't have Daylight Savings Time. |
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 MospawWhat, too soon?Hawaiian Jellyfish join:2001-01-08 Mile High kudos:1 | The cat from Alameda is correct. AZ residents don't have to spring forward and fall back. |
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 sashwaPixie Cat Crunchin' n Foldin'Premium,Mod join:2001-01-29 Alcatraz kudos:14 | You mean I'm right for a change? I gotta frame this.  |
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 MospawWhat, too soon?Hawaiian Jellyfish join:2001-01-08 Mile High kudos:1 | You've already been framed.  |
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 sashwaPixie Cat Crunchin' n Foldin'Premium,Mod join:2001-01-29 Alcatraz kudos:14 | 
I'm telling on you. |
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 DrewCapuGiant Diehard join:2001-12-19 California | reply to joewho AZ should get with the program.
Even IN figured out how to change clocks with the rest of America, and they were more confused than anybody else.
Now, as for HI, time really shouldn't matter there. |
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 joewhoPremium join:2004-08-20 Dundee, IL | reply to joewho Thanks for the replies. I had heard on tv or a rumor that AZ would be changing with NV starting this year. But now I'll have to wait til we fall back to find out. -- we're all connected |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | reply to DrewCapu said by DrewCapu:AZ should get with the program. Even IN figured out how to change clocks with the rest of America, and they were more confused than anybody else. Now, as for HI, time really shouldn't matter there. But it does matter! We definitely need DST just because you guys have it. It is awful to have to stay up till 3AM to call the East Coast during DST. I'm sure not getting up early to call so I have to stay up really late. Six hour time difference is too much. Five hours to the East Coast during Standard Time is not quite as bad.
I'm totally for Hawaii going to Daylight Savings. Plus, it would give us more daylight in the evenings. It gets dark really early here. I am always struck by how late at night it is light in Arkansas when I go to visit my mom in May or September. I would love to have it still light here at almost 9PM. We have no twilight in Hawaii so one minute it is light and the next dark. Much better with no twilight to have the darkness come later.
I don't think it will ever happen though. -- "If you want to do DRM on a PC then you need to treat the user as the enemy." Ross Anderson in "`Trusted Computing' Frequently Asked Questions"
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 DrewCapuGiant Diehard join:2001-12-19 California | said by Mele20:It is awful to have to stay up till 3AM to call the East Coast during DST. I'm sure not getting up early to call so I have to stay up really late. Or, you could just send an email  |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | I'm referring to business calls not personal where I might send an email. A business call generally needs to be done on the phone not by email or some dumb real time chat. Nothing like talking to a real person on the phone (with the exception of businesses that have outsourced customer service to India) to get something quickly resolved that would take forever by email or real time chat and still eventually require a phone call. I don't do anything by email if I can do it by phone on an 800 number. I had a terrible time recently getting a hold of The Hartford. I had written them by regular mail and submitted the claim and was ignored. I had to speak to someone by phone. Thing is that this particular department (not main claims which is 24 phone service) closes very early for Hawaii. So, I kept leaving voice mail and being confused because the recording said to call during EST...so I thought maybe where ever they are in the East was no longer using daylight savings time but I wasn't sure so I couldn't accurately calculate the time. Those records should say what the current local time is I think. We, in Hawaii, can't even remember when you folks go on and off DST. So, it would be a big help if businesses were to state the local time when you get a recorded message.
Hartford's message said they would return my call within three hours. They never called for three days. Turned out that I had been calling about an hour before they closed so the call back within three hours was meaningless and when they called the next day, I was asleep. I don't have voice mail or an answering machine so that made it even more of a problem. (But even if had either, that wouldn't have helped much as I would be returning the call after they had closed). After I called the third time, and left a message, I was called the next day AFTER their regular business hours by a supervisor and got the problem straightened out in a couple of minutes. I feel that mainland companies that wish to do business in Hawaii should have reasonable hours for Hawaii customers to call. The Hartford has a claims agent in my town and has a huge office in Honolulu but their arcane way of doing things makes it so that I have to call a department on the East Coast. Even if this had been a big claim I still would not have been able to directly contact the local office or the Honolulu district office.
Most people in Hawaii have two pet peeves about living here and one of them involves the problems with the time differences to the the East Coast in particular and the other has to do with internet companies that make you jump through many hoops to get to the point where you can calculate shipping and then either it says "for Hawaii and Alaska shipping rates call xxxxxx" or it calculates it and the item which was a $21 UPC replacement battery costs $76 to ship to Hawaii. The very first thing we in Hawaii want to know on a website that sells stuff is what the shipping costs are to Hawaii and we don't want to have to register, put items in a basket, put in credit card information to get a shipping quote...usually to learn later that the quote was wildly inaccurate and we are charged 5 times the quote making the shipping much greater than the cost of the item. -- "If you want to do DRM on a PC then you need to treat the user as the enemy." Ross Anderson in "`Trusted Computing' Frequently Asked Questions"
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 bobrkYou kids get offa my lawnPremium join:2000-02-02 San Jose, CA | Tough living in paradise, innit? |
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 Subaru1-3-2-4Premium join:2001-05-31 Greenwich, CT | reply to joewho Good Greez 7AM is 1Pm my time here on the EST
ouch $76 to shipp a battery  |
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 Subaru1-3-2-4Premium join:2001-05-31 Greenwich, CT | reply to joewho Wow watching CNN FIRST TIME EVER I've seen the EAS tone in use... |
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 joewhoPremium join:2004-08-20 Dundee, IL | reply to joewho So, now I know. Arizona never changes their time, but Nevada is west coast time. |
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