Re: Typical in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16713723 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:57:15 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:57:15 EDT Re: Typical http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16717611 cdru :
said by axess_denied See Profile :

"The surcharge helps offset costs we incur from our network supplier"

I'd love to be in a business where I could charge for a product, and then add additional fees to charge again for the same product.
Don't take this as defending Verizon because I'm not, but thanks to deregulation, Verizon the telco, Verizon the backhaul provider, and Verizon the ISP are all 3 separate entities within the Verizon umbrella. They essentially have to treat each other as separate companies, "charging" one another for services provided just like they would charge Covad or other CLECs or other ISPs.

That being said, I see this fee more like just another way to raise rates (even though the net gain is close to 0) without raising the advertised rates. Now as long as they stay away from my FiOS data connection...
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Quis custodiet custodes ipsos?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16717611 Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:57:39 EDT Re: Typical http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16714498 cptmiles : That's exactly right. Their network provider is the deregulated arm of themselves. It's like paying yourself to clean your own house and writing it off your taxes as a business expense.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16714498 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:22:16 EDT Re: Typical http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16713723 nixen :
said by lesopp See Profile :

Here's a thought. Since the entity originally known as UUNet is now Verizon Business, aren't they their own network supplier.
They've always been their own network supplier.

-tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16713723 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:11:54 EDT Re: Typical http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16712164 lesopp : Here's a thought. Since the entity originally known as UUNet is now Verizon Business, aren't they their own network supplier.

They should call it a "circle jerk" fee.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16712164 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:19:35 EDT Typical http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16711014 axess_denied : "The surcharge helps offset costs we incur from our network supplier"

I'd love to be in a business where I could charge for a product, and then add additional fees to charge again for the same product.

This doesn't even have the appearance of being anything BUT a BS fee meant to boost profitability.

Ah well, like all the other bogus fees and surcharges, I suppose we just get to swallow them like usual.

Sure love my Voice Pulse VOIP - the price I get billed is the monthly service charge - no other crap (although perhaps that will be changing thanks to the ruling cited).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16711014 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:18:41 EDT