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Orwell1984

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reply to big9member

Re: War on Terror

I would be very happy to know what it means to win the war on terror.If any person here can explain to me how we define victory in this I would like to hear from you. Without a clear definition of victory it will not be possible to win. EVER! Like any sensible, rational person I have no problem with my duly elected government taking extreme measures to defend our nation in time of war. Look at some of the things we did to win WWII. Even after the war allied soldiers killed innocent civilians to get people to turn in resistance fighters in Germany. I personally have no problem with this. BUT until you have the stomach to do things like this don't use the word WAR so lightly. If this was war, Pakistan would be occupied now because it is Al Queida's primary base of operation and training. Half assing a war gets you a Vietnam or Afghanistan (to the Russians). We are not at war. That is a pleasant euphemism to get people riled up. Get over it and use some common sense. Do not grant broad Powers to your Government for a war with no clear end. They cannot be trusted. The Forefathers of this nation knew that and we should never forget it.

undertow

join:2004-08-21
Plano, TX

Why haven't some attorneys filed a class action lawsuit against firefighters yet? I mean everyone knows that firefighters are just pawns of the Bush Administration who purposely set fires so they can stomp all over our civil liberties and break into our homes while they claim they're just putting out the fire. Whatever! We know what's really going on. Fascists!



Orwell1984

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My ignorance raises it's ugly head again. Which side of the argument are you on undertow? Your post is as a reply to me but I can't figure out if you are for or against anything I said.



woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA

reply to Orwell1984
when the use of the euphimism "war on terror" I believe that that is what the present administration is using to "elevate" their so called war "powers". If anyone has read the constitution, there is not any mention of the president having extraordinary powers, that is what concerns me, this present administration is claiming to follow the constitution, and want judges that are strict followers that don't interpret said constitution, and then lambast them when they do. We have three branches of government, but you would think that there is only one and if you disagree with them, you must be weak on terrorism. Both houses of government have become impotent. They are/were elected to serve us ,and they need to be made aware of this fact, or they need a rude awakening.As a Vietnam vet, 2 tours of duty, I am truly disappointed for a couple of reasons. One is that how you could start a war that you can't possibly win (remember the past),and once started how could you be so unprepared for the peace? (remember the past again). I am a conservative Democrat/liberal republican, no that is not an oxy moron.I like the physcal responsibility of true conservatives, but with a touch of the true democratics compassion. I don't want any religion in politics, not even my own. This socalled war is bogus from the getgo, just as Vietnam was.I had the choice to go or not go, and chose the former, and don't regret it. It gives me a better slant on what is going on. JMT
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Orwell1984

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As it is coming from one who has been there I respect your opinion. Thank you for all you have done. Your efforts will be appreciated by generations to come.



R4M0N
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join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA

said by Orwell1984 :

As it is coming from one who has been there I respect your opinion. Thank you for all you have done. Your efforts will be appreciated by generations to come.
Only half of the generations, the other half, unfortunately, will still think he was a baby killer.


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said by undertow:

Why haven't some attorneys filed a class action lawsuit against firefighters yet? I mean everyone knows that firefighters are just pawns of the Bush Administration who purposely set fires so they can stomp all over our civil liberties and break into our homes while they claim they're just putting out the fire. Whatever! We know what's really going on. Fascists!
Funny you should say that. A long time ago a friend of mine had his house burn down. In his infinite wisdom he kept some pot in a fire proof bag. A fireman opened the bag and found the pot. The judge threw out the evidence because there was no probable cause to open the bag.

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