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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1

I vote inaction

or a strongly worded but ultimately ineffectial rebuttal to the practice.
--
Mass Transit Sucks!


chd176

join:2003-01-10
Winfield, AL

Honestly I don't think anything will be done. If anything the wording in the TOS for DSL will be re-worded to included a mention of the fee. After all this IS corporate America...
--
1.5/256 CenturyTel PPPoE DSL line



knightmb
Everybody Lies

join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN

reply to PhoenixDown
My vote as well, if they did do something (fines, etc) I would be really surprised but at least have hope then in the FCC.



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

reply to PhoenixDown
Let me guess: Some babbling free-market manifesto suggesting inaction by Kev "think tank" Martin, followed up by a lovely, tersely worded pdf from Commissioner "I'm just a Democrat, what can I do?" Copps saying they should act but won't?



tsu9

join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL

reply to PhoenixDown
I also vote inaction.



AtlGuy

join:2000-10-17
Marietta, GA

reply to PhoenixDown
I'm with you all, I vote inaction as well.



cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27

reply to PhoenixDown
Let's ask the FCC about this...



skinnyJM

join:2002-08-25
Fort Worth, TX

reply to PhoenixDown
I vote inaction also. The FCC will say the provider can charge whatever the market will bear.
So...the provider may remove the "Line item" charge and raise the monthly price.
But as mentioned elsewhere at broadbandreports, DSL remains the best BANG for your buck!
(IMHO, as always!)


fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3

1 edit

reply to PhoenixDown
Inaction - there's nothing that the FCC can do... it's an unregulated service and they are free to place what ever fees or charge what they want for the service.

The fee is bogus, but the FCCs out of it arena on this one. Nice horse and pony show, though.

HOWEVER, there is one thing that SHOULD be done and I am not sure if people are over looking this.

The fee dissapears from existence, then this new one shows up. Obviously Verizon took a hit by loosing the original fee, right? So they needed to make up for it.

Wasn't the original fee a pass through fee? If verizon took a "hit" then what were they doing with the original fee to begin with? THAT is what needs to be investigated... not the new fee itself.


markofmayhem
I can haz competition?
Premium
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:4

I vote for something more sinister. I bet the FCC comes up with a new fee to pay for an investigative body for bogus fees!


MontyMan
Premium
join:2004-08-16
Sumter, SC

reply to PhoenixDown
I vote settlement of three dollars off coupons for all...

Quickly followed by a new five dollar FCC coupon recovery fee.


squison

join:2001-07-07
Decatur, GA

reply to fiberguy
I think it's less of a "hit" more of: "If our customers are used to paying $xx.xx on their bill, they'll still pay it, even if it's to us instead of the government."



CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to chd176
SE already has a line in the TOS that the Price Guarantee only applies to the amount to get their service - anything else is excluded from the guarantee and this would be excluded...

I also do not consider it a price increase since the price of my service has not gone up a penny - it is still the same as when the FUSF was charged. Now if I was paying $1.00 more than when I was with the FUSF - that would be a rate increase...

It will cost a pretty penny to bring out DSL2 for SE and I don't mind it if it will help secure loans to offer DSL2 or to pay for it - even though I won't really be affected by DSL2 since I am to far away fromthe CO...
--
Brian

"Some people are like Slinkies...
Not really good for anything......
But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs."



KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to PhoenixDown
The FCC will complain loudly but will actually sanction a new loophole that legitimizes the bogus fees. End result: The price hikes stay.



RealoRc
Premium
join:2003-01-25
Brooklyn, NY

reply to CylonRed
So there is no price increase if the clothes you buy has sales tax removed but you still pay the same price before the tax break?



CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

I still pay the exact same amout as before - so no - to me it is not a increase over and above what I paid before. It is all semantics at that level...



Jodokast96
Stupid people really piss me off.
Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
kudos:2

So tomorrow, if oil dropped to $20 a barrel for the next year, you'd be happy paying $3 a gallon for gas, because that's what you pay now?



CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

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I don't pay $3 a gal now... And gas is a apples to oranges comparison as the price of gas depends on many, many more things than an internet connection.



FLea973
Premium
join:2001-02-27
Morristown, NJ

reply to fiberguy

said by fiberguy:

Obviously Verizon took a hit by loosing the original fee, right? So they needed to make up for it.

Wasn't the original fee a pass through fee? If verizon took a "hit" then what were they doing with the original fee to begin with? THAT is what needs to be investigated... not the new fee itself.
Actually, they and every telecom charging the USF probably DID take a hit by the removal of this "pass-through" fee. I do not know the specifics, yes, they had to remit what they collected for the USF to the Treasury.... but, how often? We all paid the fee monthly... if the telcos only had to remit those fees to the government quarterly, semiannually or annually instead of monthly, that is one big boat load of interest income they were making. Of course, now they get both the interest AND the fee....
--
To the past, or to the future. To an age when thought is free. From the Age of Big Brother, from the Age of the Thought Police, from a dead man... greetings

yac898

join:2002-12-06
Stony Plain, AB

reply to CylonRed
as a SBC shareholder i applaud your stance. we took in billions and improving our bottom line with that free cash. since we cant blame it on the gov't any more, we NEED more people like you.
(all kidding aside, you're really not serious, are you?)


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