Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16791808 en Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:14:15 EDT Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:14:15 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16796859 Fatal Vector : "Do you have an comprehensive ten year education in medicine? If you answered no to that question then please STFU. You have no idea what you are talking about for the most part patients and their idiotic confused non scientific drivel is just a waste of the doctor's time."

Proof is in the pudding, pilgrim. The doctor works for ME and, for the money he's getting can damn well spend the time that is required to keep me informed and answer my questions.

It is also his responsability to know how patients feel, since they live with their bodies 24/7 and are in a position to know.

A "comprehensive ten year education in medicine" is not a licence to rip off ones patients and be a arrogant bastard towards them and their legitimate complaints and concerns.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16796859 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:59:17 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16794903 grandpinaple : Do you have an comprehensive ten year education in medicine? If you answered no to that question then please STFU. You have no idea what you are talking about for the most part patients and their idiotic confused non scientific drivel is just a waste of the doctor's time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16794903 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:50:43 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16794320 qdemn7 :
said by beck See Profile :

said by qdemn7 See Profile :

That's why I quit F@H. No real gratitude and "How DARE you question anything we do???"
Was your answer "You don't do what I want so I quit?"

You don't have to agree with anyone as long as you run the app and return the results. Some jobs are thankless. That's just a fact of life. Fortunately, this one is not required of anyone.
No. first it's because they looked upon us as "Users" instead of "Contributors", which has changed. Second it was because some of use were a "points first" type person as a opposed to a "science first". And we were looked down upon, and treated as second class "contributors" for daring to have that attitude. So yes, I felt it was thankless and said the "hell with it, and them." So I quit.
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Libertarian Socialism is an oxymoron, and Libertarian Socialists are oxymoronic with an emphasis on “moron”. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16794320 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:15:06 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16792954 Mike : Space isn't the size of new jersey and there is this thing called linear time.

RC5 = encryption stuff.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16792954 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:58:02 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16792887 Fatal Vector : "Then do SETI or RC5."

SETI has been around in one form or another for a long time using "unused" cycles and you NEVER hear ANYTHING from them about progress of ANY kind.

And, I've never heard of "RC 5", but I'm sure it is basically the same kind of setup.

Once again, you only have their word that the app on your computer is doing what they say it is. As far as I'm concerned, the apparent total lack of progress in SETI is telling in and of itself. Let them buy their own computers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16792887 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:11:05 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791980 beck :
said by qdemn7 See Profile :

That's why I quit F@H. No real gratitude and "How DARE you question anything we do???"
Was your answer "You don't do what I want so I quit?"

If I had something I wanted to accomplish, no matter I'm using your 200000 computers, I would have to make decisions on how to try to get results needed to continue work. Not how I could do each and every thing each 200000 computer owners wanted. Be real here.

You don't have to agree with anyone as long as you run the app and return the results. Some jobs are thankless. That's just a fact of life. Fortunately, this one is not required of anyone.
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said by Fatal Vector See Profile :

Yes. Join a club. But you'd better be 100% like minded as the other members or you'll quickly find yourself ostracized, pushed out and banned because you "dont fit in".
That's why I quit F@H. No real gratitude and "How DARE you question anything we do???"
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Libertarian Socialism is an oxymoron, and Libertarian Socialists are oxymoronic with an emphasis on “moron”. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791808 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:13:29 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791683 jervin123 : The resources needed to solve very complex protein structures which are some of the most complex types of structures can take lots of cycles and processes that you would need thousands of supercomputers to do all the work. When you can have 200,000 computers do little pieces of the work and then send them back to systems that account for that and then you eventually do get some results they did eventually find a little evidence some decoded letters out of Seti. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791683 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:44:07 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791583 TK Junk Mail :
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A cynical viewpoint. But there is a whole lot of truth in what you say.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791583 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:23:39 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791069 Mike : Then do SETI or RC5.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16791069 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:29:34 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16790970 Fatal Vector : Yes. Join a club. But you'd better be 100% like minded as the other members or you'll quickly find yourself ostracized, pushed out and banned because you "dont fit in".

And there is allways some distributed computing outfit that has been working in the cure for cancer (or, some such) for the last 10 years with everyones "unused" computing cycles and internet access.

Of course, in reality, you really haven't the faintest clue about what that app on your computer is REALLY doing, other than it is allways running for someone elses benefit.

And you can see your name on their website and how you are beating everyone else by gaining more points than they are.

And, needless to say, a cure for whatever disease is never found. Really... Just exactly WHO is REALLY behind that group you are allowing to access your computer by running their app?

HOW MANY computers does it take to solve such problems? And, why cant they pay for their own computers?

Will we ever see anything from letting them use our computers for whatever they are really using them for?

Not likely. If they DO come up with a cure, they'yll get rich on your back and give you buttkiss in return.

Suddenly, they wont have a clue who you or any of the myriad others are, let alone give you any credit that might let you into their pockets in return.

There's no money in cures, (except the price of the cure itself, of course, after which you are cured and there is no more money) only in treating the symptoms endlessly, unending research and, giving the suckers hope.

That's why the national cancer foundation (among myriad others you know the names of well) has been "searching for a cure" forever, is allways "so close to finding a cure", yet never seems to find even a clue (sounds like the standard politician, doesn't it?). All the new ideas seem to be from independent researchers at university labs.

You'd think that, with all the money that has been given to CHARITABLE research orgainizations (who therefore, have a vested interest in NOT finding a cure, because once they do, the gravy train will be over)-never mind the rest, corporate and government-over the last 50 years-trillions of dollars-they would have come up with AT LEAST ONE cure to a major disease, wouldn't you? But they haven't. NOT ONE.

Any bets that this FACT is because they are mostly all searching for a cure based on drugs (which, of course, leads us right back to the profit motive), instead of researching the underlying CAUSE of the disease and ways to mitigate it?

Causes like all the CHEMICALS and compounds we are exposed to in our environment? Many of which, perhaps, are not dangerous by themselves, but how about when mixed together?

But hey, I'm sure the doctors, administrators, etc, thank you every day for paying their salaries, contributing to their 401 K's, mortgages and car payments on those SUV's....

Actually, if you have ever spent any time in the hospital, or, looked into this subject, you'll be utterly astonished at how CLUELESS (and lazy) most doctors (including so called "specialists") really are.

They are driven by statistics, what the drug companies feed them and how they were trained, errr...indoctrinated in medical school.

It's all about stopping by your room for 5 minutes, listening to your heart and lungs, not answering any of your questions unliss you INSIST (because you are stupid, they think, which is, sadly, in many cases true) and then tack $75 - $250 on your bill as soon as they get back to the office.

It's such a sweet scam. Even better than lawyers and that's saying a lot.

You know who the best overall doctors are for the most part? Those that were trained, errr...indoctrinated overseas. Why? Because they haven't had the ability to think outside the box knocked out of them like US doctors have and most will actually listen yo you and work with you without you having to get ugly and assert yourself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16790970 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:05:19 EDT Re: Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16790237 anon : Can i ask how many cures you have found?

Thanks,sounds neat!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16790237 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:53:01 EDT Volunteering Your Spare Computer Cycles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16789724 Backspace :
Volunteerism online is not a new concept for most users of this site.
It's just one of many reasons I visit BBR. At »Team Discovery, we use our computers to help find cures for diseases.

There are other Computing Clubs here and they can be found at »Computing Clubs.

Volunteering by helping folks with their computer problems is a nice thing to do. Volunteering your spare computer cycles to help the world cure diseases is a great thing to do! Join a club here today and begin to save the world. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16789724 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:03:36 EDT