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Vamp
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Re: Still on 1.1...

said by tmangani:

said by Vamp:

I'm still on 1.1, why talk about 3.0 when ISPs are not even upgrading to 2.0?

Cable ISPs are idiots, they already have fiber to the node, they might as well start building out fiber to the home!
Here we go again, the primary advantage of DOCSIS 2.0 is additional upstream. Cableco's are not like telcos and adopt all new technology just for the sake of image. If they can make the same money with 1.0 and not have to sink the capital, that's much better for them.
More upstream is the exact reason why they should.. The number one complaint by broadband users is upload speed.


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said by Vamp:

said by tmangani:

said by Vamp:

I'm still on 1.1, why talk about 3.0 when ISPs are not even upgrading to 2.0?

Cable ISPs are idiots, they already have fiber to the node, they might as well start building out fiber to the home!
Here we go again, the primary advantage of DOCSIS 2.0 is additional upstream. Cableco's are not like telcos and adopt all new technology just for the sake of image. If they can make the same money with 1.0 and not have to sink the capital, that's much better for them.
More upstream is the exact reason why they should.. The number one complaint by broadband users is upload speed.
Thats the complaint by BBR users, not broadband users. There is a difference.

The people who know broadband and are tech savvy want the faster upload. The common user only cares about a few select things. Believe it or not, but broadband provider content is more important to these people than upload speeds.
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hell0

@verizon.net

Wow. Its going to be such a great way to advertise.

Fine Print: We Cap, We Shape your Traffic!!!!!!

You will get 100mbps sure uncapped. Wait till they cap.


NetDroid2

join:2004-08-16
Excelsior, MN

reply to Nightfall

said by Nightfall:

Thats the complaint by BBR users, not broadband users. There is a difference.

The people who know broadband and are tech savvy want the faster upload. The common user only cares about a few select things. Believe it or not, but broadband provider content is more important to these people than upload speeds.
Don't forget that if they give us more upload then everyone will make servers. Or at least that is what they seem to say.
We all know that on almost every Broadband connection that is forbidden.
Thats why my cable isp gives me a high speed (upload) connection of 256Kbps.
Sending 50meg of pictures is so much fun, I can relive my dial-up memories.... lol!


God
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reply to Vamp
uplaod speed is the most important thing to me. For VOip and games .....



vzw emp

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Upload speed is important to a lot of people, most of them just don't know what it's called. if my grandmother wants to send pictures of the family reunion she attended last week, she knows her AT&T connection takes a very long time to send them, she just isn't familar with the term "upload speed". there is a difference between knowing there is a problem and knowing what that problem is called. this is the cable/telco's fault. i've never seen an ISP talk about upload speed in any advertisement that i've come across. sure, time warner will give you 7MB down and claim it's 70 or 100 times faster than dial up, but they refuse to mention the paltry 512kb upload speed (if it embarasses them so much maybe they should do something about it). true competition is the only way this is going to change (legislation would also do this, but why would the legislator's do this when the lobbyists are adding to their bottom line).



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Winter Park, FL
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reply to NetDroid2

said by NetDroid2:

said by Nightfall:

Thats the complaint by BBR users, not broadband users. There is a difference.

The people who know broadband and are tech savvy want the faster upload. The common user only cares about a few select things. Believe it or not, but broadband provider content is more important to these people than upload speeds.
Don't forget that if they give us more upload then everyone will make servers. Or at least that is what they seem to say.
We all know that on almost every Broadband connection that is forbidden.
Thats why my cable isp gives me a high speed (upload) connection of 256Kbps.
Sending 50meg of pictures is so much fun, I can relive my dial-up memories.... lol!
Faster uploads = faster spreading of viruses and spam too. Just a friendly reminder. You may not get hit, but the page you are trying to load might get attacked by a group of idiot users who did (like this site, just an example though).
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