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JTRockville
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Rockville, MD

500 Miles

At $40,000 per mile, Telcos could have deployed around 500 miles of fiber for the price they paid to lobby the legislature.

It's quite obvious these guys are in business to make money, not to deliver services.

RadioDoc
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I usually agree with you, but you might want to re-read your comment:

"It's quite obvious these guys are in business to make money, not to deliver services."

Of course they are in business to make money. One of the ways that happens is to deliver services that make money.

These are public corporations not charities, foundations or government agencies. Unless we're all set to pay for government-run telecom services via taxes this is the best way to get the job done.

Unless, of course, you want to go back to the days of guaranteed-return-on-investment monopoly regulation, which would also guarantee service to everyone. It would, however, end the pipe dream of "competition" started back in the early 80's.
Would you rather they not make money?
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tsu9

join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL

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Would you rather they not make money?
Personally, I'd rather them not routinely screw over the community whenever possible. Making money is fine, but don't do it at the expense of the customers (no pun intended).
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"You do not secure the liberty of our country and value of our democracy by undermining them, that's the road to hell." - Lord Phillips of Sudbury.

RadioDoc
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I agree. But, who decides what "screwing over the community" is? I can find you a dozen people in any community who feel they are being screwed over by the very municipal government who is supposed to be protecting said citizens from said screwing.

As a resident of Wheeling, you should know that you never, ever stand between a suburb and money.
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tsu9

join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL

I never said the line was that clear, but disassociating the local municipalities from the bidding process isn't precisely something I look forward to.

I'm sure that living in Illinois you know well what I mean.
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"You do not secure the liberty of our country and value of our democracy by undermining them, that's the road to hell." - Lord Phillips of Sudbury.


RadioDoc
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Yup. I stuck my tongue out in the general direction of the Capitol while driving through Springfield the other day...
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Toolmaster of La Grange.



JTRockville
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Rockville, MD
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reply to RadioDoc

said by RadioDoc:

Unless, of course, you want to go back to the days of guaranteed-return-on-investment monopoly regulation, which would also guarantee service to everyone. It would, however, end the pipe dream of "competition" started back in the early 80's.
Would you rather they not make money?
I'd rather get service from an entity whose purpose is to provide service. I don't think competition, particularly when it means two giants in a race to the bottom, is something for a consumer to celebrate. What passes for competition is better than unregulated monopoly, but not by much.

RadioDoc
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Well then you've just punctured the myth of regulated telecom competition as it was rigged in the 1980s and continues today. You've also ruined the day of most ranters who sully these pages.

Congratulations!
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Toolmaster of La Grange.



Old_Grouch
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reply to JTRockville
Actually, the money they spent winds-up being expense dollars against this year's earnings and something they can hit one time in the next annual report right below the accomplishments section where they talk about pulling wool over the eyes of legislators; escaping state regulatory rules for POTS and keeping the internet/IP traffic on the interstate side of the ledger so the states can't twiddle with it.

The creative task is getting it paid for by the rate base rather than the shareholders.

As someone else says...$19M to escape the cost of negotiating franchise agreements in every community is like getting it for darn near free.

Updating outside plant is often a capital project that has to be depreciated and earned against for a number of years in the future.
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~Team Discovery~ It's what to do with your PC when you aren't doing anything with your PC.


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