Re: What did he expect? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16802225 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:25:01 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:25:01 EDT Re: What did he expect? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16835178 AD7BK : No they are doing worse
They are rolling out BPL, it is cheap to roll and cheap to supply, noting all you need is a box that can access it, um the problem is BPL pollutes the air and few bpl providers are polluting the air. More thought has to be put in that media access since if every where used it, it would pollute the airwaves with the signals. everything in the frequency range, will recive the noise it generates. I know that Tv wont be effected but in some rural areas i am in here in Choteau, Mt. Could invest in the system, since the cable company here is 20 years out of date here, they just started digital services but not internet/voip/hdtv/dvrs all-in-one wire and doesnt interfere, is not out here.

In Tacoma I could hook up to the Power Company's system. They are Power, Cable, Garbage, Sewage, Water service only thing they didnt have was voip but thanks to thier real fast for real cheap service (60 bucks for 7/768 ((better than speakeasys SDSL in speed and out lasts it in reliablity as well.)) I have never ever lost connection even when the powers out (generator powered)it lasts for a little while then dies out but with the back ups they have and as much as they invested in their pot of gold so to say, even with all its faults.. It is still the most wired city in the nation. They are very fair with the rates too. Speakeasy is the next best deal. lastly is comcast which was at&t and tci can also provide thier overpriced undermanaged and limited cable internet services too. Being both helping the sheepel and leaders at the same time.

They have a real decent cable tv service AND they also had the absolute best cable modem serice i have had the pleasure to use for 4 years. Check it out and the story about how they did it. And made everyone very happy who can afford it, but not to worry even the limited income can get on the band wagon they have thier own "assistance" program to help the senior citizens and the low income families have the basics of service which isnt too bad either 1/512k. Everyone has the hookup mostly. It works well very well. Imagine what FTTH would do which THEY are concidiering. They will not even touch BPL.

With FTTH there is no need for readers to come out they can dedicate that to connections and troubleshooting the network. And those who dont pay and has big dogs and guns, no matter a command sent to the meter and boom no lights. Currently they cut you off at the pole. They have it made there as long as they have thier sheeple. I wasnt a sheeple but I connected and the 100's of gigs i downloaded one month in a test i downloaded and uploaded over 1/2TB of data in a month and there was no questions asked. Try that on Comcast. If your connection can go as fast and constant. Comcast meters you but dont show it on paper they are disconnecting people at some "hidden limitits".

I didnt have that problem with the municipal power compnay. Tacoma owns thier own little plot of land. They provide everything and as long as you dont bother them. They will provide everything you need. The bonus with this is power company is the middle man in this, you have a choice of 3 cable internet providers. Advanced Stream, Harbor net,and Net Venture. They are providers based in certian areas in the county. They are your isps. The cable company is the hub and they resale the service. And they're very fair with the prices. 29.95 for basic all the way up to 129.00 for thier top tier 7/1 which I had for about 5 months. (And I miss dearly) But not to worry, I am going to be using EDGE,GPRS services and sure they are not near as fast they are cheap and decent. I have grown accsutom to the slowness. As soon as BRESNAN gets thier duffs up here and upgrade the cable system to have Internet. I remember that chase. And I am chasing it again.

As soon as they offer it up here and it requires cable service. Then fine i will get thier very basic HDTV service.

I am stuck using Dish Network to get HDTV way the hell out here. :P

They offer internet too but i dont want to waste my money on that. I will wait. They have DSL up here 1.5/640 for 129 (too much) I am cutting it down next month to middle service save 40 bucks a month and use that to have the cell internet too. I may drop it to basic if the cell internet proves fast. If it can go about 80% of the speed that the middle can go I will go to basic for the house and use the high speed for myself (since the family chats and listens to music) Its fast enough for that. (368/368)

The telephone co-op has the hardware needed they to proivde a more robust network with higher speeds like that of Covad. I live 1/4 mile to the CO if that Soon I will be 2 blocks down a alley directly from the phone company. Bet i can do the SDSL or HSDSL and do 30/30 or something. The phone company tells me i am 2100+ feet away from the C/O so you know this whole town would benifit from that and it wont cost hardly nothing to provide it.

But That remains to be seen. I FTTH would be the best way to go it does everything but costs alot. If they can just invest in it. It would make everything cheap to provide.

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said by nasadude See Profile :

Martin is either a clueless moron, or is faking outrage to keep up appearances that the FCC gives a crap about consumers. Hard to tell which, in my opinion.
I know the person through associates and he is neither clueless nor trying to fake outrage. The Commission is trying with its limited powers is to influence a business decision that they really have little or no control over.

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said by Bangy See Profile :

the problem is they AREN'T laying fiber to holmes. Not nearly in the amount they claimed when they accepted billions in tax breaks several years ago to do just that
yup. the american people got scammed out of billions of dollars. if the telcos did what they promised and built networks to the full extent. then i gurantee that the usa would be #1 world leader in broadband by far]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16809453 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:59:20 EDT Re: Or what? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16808560 jimbo33 : Speak for yourself!!!! If you're so happy why don't you just give them an extra $100 or so a month. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16808560 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:49:04 EDT Re: Or what? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16804784 53059959 : I live in a neighborhood where top level corporate suits live in, and I don't have fios =)

this house is now valued at 2.1 million

zillow.com 22182]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16804784 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:29:12 EDT Re: Or what? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16803548 Bangy : the problem is they AREN'T laying fiber to holmes. Not nearly in the amount they claimed when they accepted billions in tax breaks several years ago to do just that.

I WILL guarantee its laid in the neighborhoods that the top level corporate suits live in though....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16803548 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:39:46 EDT Re: What did he expect? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16803522 Bangy : it'll happen just like the 2 billion in tax breaks for building out fiber optic for the country will be used for its intended purpose.

oh, wait a minute, they have no plans to do that now.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16803522 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:36:14 EDT Re: Or what? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16802706 bbenso1 :
said by 53059959 See Profile :

you guys are over-reacting.
if you want to know how many fees your being charged, just look at your bill! simple math. and if you want to know the fees of other companies, welcome to dslreports-ask a member.
The problem with that is that you can't look at your bill until you've signed up for service and committed to a contract of at least a year. So you see the add for DSL for $20/month and sign up. The first chance you get to see how many fees you're being charged is when you get the first bill. The first bill comes and you see that your $20/month DSL actually costs closer to $40/month. Guess what? Too late to cancel, you signed a one year contract. Still want to cancel? No problem, that'll be $200 in early termination fees please.

said by 53059959 See Profile :

broadband internet is a necessity to me just like electricity. three bucks is bananas
It is also a necessity to me and you're right, three bucks is peanuts. The problem here is one of principle. They advertise one price for their service and then they add BS, line-item "fees" that serve no purpose other than to jack up the price of service. Since broadband is a necessity for you, you'd have no problem if they advertised the service at $20/month and then added below-the-line fees of $50/month? Would that be acceptable? If not, then why is $3/month acceptable? So it's a matter of quantity? As long as they're only screwing you out of a small portion of your bill it's okay?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16802706 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:26:29 EDT Re: What did he expect? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16802225 fiberguy : I agree...

and, what's he going to do? A Tom Cruise counch jump? DSL is non-regulted and I doubt the FCC can do much about the "fee" in the first place.. Maybe he should spare himself the loss of life-time and shut up because nothing will happen, other than more tax money will be wasted as he "investigates" something that he will never do anything about it.

And hey, on your 'broadband for everyone" presidential comment - I got a deal for you.. hold your breath until that happens, and I will give you a billion-trillion dollars... if you make it! lol When I heard that comment from Bush, I had to laugh. The big new president gets into office and one of his most vocal concerns was broadband for everyone. Yea, I guess the Federal Government sure knows it's boundaries and it's priorities of it's function.
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if you want to know how many fees your being charged, just look at your bill! simple math. and if you want to know the fees of other companies, welcome to dslreports-ask a member.

i'll tolerate verizon making an extra $100 million a month cuz at least they have the balls to spend that much on laying fiber to homes.

broadband internet is a necessity to me just like electricity. three bucks is bananas]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16802027 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:46:24 EDT Re: Or what? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16801850 JamesPC : or they will go over board and make an example of YOU.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16801850 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:22:17 EDT Re: What did he expect? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16801601 nasadude :
said by PDXPLT See Profile :

He's been a big fan of deregulation; it's disengenuous that's he's now "furious" that the telcos are exploiting it...
disengenuous? I think it's hilarious.

Martin is either a clueless moron, or is faking outrage to keep up appearances that the FCC gives a crap about consumers. Hard to tell which, in my opinion.

Either way, it's telecom theatre, where everybody with any power in the situation pretends that competition abounds and all regulations must be done away with (except for VOIP, of course), so the next generation of services can be rolled out to consumers.

The FCC is part of the problem right now, not part of the solution.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16801601 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:43:22 EDT What did he expect? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16800699 PDXPLT : He's been a big fan of deregulation; it's disengenuous that's he's now "furious" that the telcos are exploiting it.

I thought in his ideal world, if the consumer does not like the fees, they simply choose to buy service from one of a half-dozen or so other provider of broadband services available to them. ;)

Oh, and remember, the President said that by next year, these same choices of affordable broadband will be available to all Americans. It was said during an election year, so it must really be going to happen, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16800699 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:26:07 EDT Or what? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16799929 Rob : If Verizon doesn't drop the fee what will the FCC do? They'll do the same thing that they've done for a long time, NOTHING.
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