 c0de
join:2004-10-14
Richmond, VA | FREEDOM! this is bullshit! that is like being blocked from what you can buy at the supermarket because it might be bad for your diet. FREEDOM!!!! You pay for a service you should be able to do what you want with it, if you break the law and get caught, then you will have to pay the price for breaking the law! |
dhaas
join:2001-12-02
Alma, MI | how the hell do you figure it like that??
If you go by your logic..I should be able to go down to the local drug store and buy some cocaine..even though it is illeagl it is not anyone's job to tell me I can't buy it...I think not...This is just like the isp saying you can't host servers off your cable modem cause it uses too much bandwidth...
EVERYTHING you can leagally download via BT is availile elsewhere...its just the illeagel stuff your crying about and I dont feel bad for anyone that downloads illegal stuff. |
| but don't you think we would live in a better world if you could go to a drug store and get a bit of cocaine and some downers instead of costing feeding the legal/law industry?
these providers offer not only caps on use but also throttle what you can use it the pipe for.
It would be like me leasing you a car that can go 100 miles per hour and as soon as you hop on the freeway i show up with my lame AUP and say "sorry, you can only go 20 miles per hour" |
MCheu
join:2002-06-10
Toronto, ON | reply to dhaas
> EVERYTHING you can leagally (SIC) download via BT is
> availile (SIC) elsewhere...its just the illeagel (SIC)
> stuff your crying about and I dont (SIC) feel bad for
> anyone that downloads illegal stuff.
True (mostly). However, not always conveniently or as quickly and there are a few instances where the limitations of a residential account puts serious limits on personal distributions.
1. Linux Distros. They're huge, and for months after a new distro release, the servers are swamped. It was 6 months before I got a hit on a server that didn't give me the "server full" message. A few months after that, Mandrake released a freeware distro (they had changed their name to Mandriva at some point). I managed to locate an unofficial torrent for the 10.1 discs. The speed wasn't great, at 4.5K, it's probably marginally faster than dialup downloading from a server, and took a while, but I got it sooner than 6 months of hit and miss trying the old fashioned way hunting for a server that isn't swamped.
2. Patches and demos. Some of these Demos take up 300-600Megs, so they're not small. A lot of gaming companies don't even offer their files on their own FTP server anymore. Many choose instead to outsource the upload to companies like FilePlanet where you can choose to pay to go to the front of the line to download these "free" files, or wait in line as number 120 using the free servers. A few have smartened up and offered torrent download as an option. There are some more friendly mirrors that have shorter wait times, but BT is a better option sometimes.
3. Occasionally, there are files which are ENTIRELY LEGAL to distribute, but which are offered exclusively via BT. There are a few fan film, indie film, or student film sites that offer their films for free download via BT. Residential DSL and cable aren't really suited to distributing files that are 200Megs even divx encoded, and getting a commercial account with FTP capabilities is a bit out of reach for distributing a student film. Dumping the movie to a site like YouTube is an option, but if your ISP has an issue with your bandwidth usage with BT, streamed movies will probably be their next target -- especially if the image quality/bit rates are improved as expected in the future. There could also be censorship issues with going through a 3rd party, and dealing with another's arbitrary morality and political stances.
4. Family movies might even make sense. You probably won't see the speed advantage of BT. However, the BT system allows download resuming and corruption detection on individual blocks on the fly. That's a very good feature to have when you're sending files that are 50+ megs in size. Not everyone can stay connected for hours downloading a file in one session. |
c0de
join:2004-10-14
Richmond, VA | reply to dhaas
i can buy cocain, not at the drug store but on the corner beside it. but thats buysing something per basis. it would be more like paying per byte. i have to pay a flat rate, and am promissed x speed, but only when they decied its okay. and drugs are a bad analogy, downing loading a movie is not going to kill you...
i personally think it is bad enough that ISP block ports (ie port 80) for publishing, i guess so they can save money so people dont publish thier own content on the internet and instead have to pay more money to use thier services. |
