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Aleck79

join:2003-07-23
College Station, TX

which will last about 5 seconds

...won that just last until the encription is changed?


Jim Gurd
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join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI

said by Aleck79:

...won that just last until the encription is changed?
How can they know what the traffic is if it's encrypted? I suspect they are classifying anything that can't be identified and is high bandwidth as P2P. In other words they're guessing.
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Aleck79

join:2003-07-23
College Station, TX

If they broke the encryption, but I really doubt that one.

I dunno how they are pulling this one off, the press release from Allot is kind of vague, pretty much saying it works cause it works. I think that it works by looking at how packets behave, that would be a dead giveaway to a p2p application if the networks sees a lot of different open connections and how the data flows. The press release states that it will separate and be able to control unknown protocols, but I don't think they are just throttling everything unknown as it specifically states that in the PR that they can throttle specifically the encrypted BT data.

My guess is that it is label "unknown" until it is analyzed and the behavior of the protocol understood.



wwdubbia

join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY

said by Aleck79:

If they broke the encryption, but I really doubt that one.

I dunno how they are pulling this one off, the press release from Allot is kind of vague, pretty much saying it works cause it works. I think that it works by looking at how packets behave, that would be a dead giveaway to a p2p application if the networks sees a lot of different open connections and how the data flows. The press release states that it will separate and be able to control unknown protocols, but I don't think they are just throttling everything unknown as it specifically states that in the PR that they can throttle specifically the encrypted BT data.

My guess is that it is label "unknown" until it is analyzed and the behavior of the protocol understood.
can't they just look to see a user having multiple connections to a tracker; regardless if it's legal or not, encrypted or not, and just slow it down?

Aleck79

join:2003-07-23
College Station, TX

they could, but that would create an issue another issue. The list of torrent trackers would have to be constantly edited and modified. Then you have to track down the actual list of trackers.

It would become to complex and cost prohibitive to be an effective solution.



Ignite
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join:2004-03-18
UK

reply to Aleck79
Perhaps you need to learn about this stuff before commenting technically.

Who says they need to completely break the encryption? Breaking it enough to detect the traffic as Bittorrent is quite acceptable. End of the day it's a man in the middle attack.

You need to give the makes of these devices more credit they've been at this for a long time now.


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