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<title>Re: False Positives</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/829260"><b>IBK</b></A> : yes, in the second part of the test, which will be released in some months.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1321807"><b>one1112</b></A> : Is there anyway to see how many false positives each AV had?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:54:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1372535"><b>data</b></A> : I don't understand why so many people are now excited about the results Avira achieved in the recent comparative test. Every AV vendor could make the same detection based on flagging every strange runtime packed file at the cost of producing a high number of false positives. If you use legit software that is protected against reverse engineering, you'd get most of the files flagged as suspicious. In real life, I couldn't live with that, I noticed about 20 FPs because of this in a single day.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:54:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: VERY interesting latest AV Comparatives test</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/803435"><b>Test99</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>....especially with Avira being free! <br></DIV>I just downloaded Avira Personal Edition Classic.  Is that the free version?  It says the license is valid until November 30.<br><SMALL>--<br>50775@fwd.pulver.com</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:36:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/798248"><b>Test Man6</b></A> : IBK,<br><br>Thanks for clarifying that about Avira and the Premium vs. free detections.<br>Thanks also for the professional tests!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:09:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1383850"><b>Jer03</b></A> : HI Frisky,<br><br>I appreciate the reply, and understand that the test was with the old version. I am looking forward to the test with V4. I understand that IBK is going to run a special test with it. That will be good.<br><br>F-Prot (I got corrected for posting F-Protect, but assumed that was what the Prot stood for.) has a loyal following of some very savvy folks, so I am expecting almost miracles. :)<br><br>Although I am not currently a user, I appreciate the license fee plan that is very generous and helps famillies and those who have more than one computer. I hope you can continue that, but realize that you  might not be able to.<br><br>Thanks again, and keep up the good work.<br><br>Best Regards,<br>Jerry]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:52:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/829260"><b>IBK</b></A> : as spyware etc. in not included in the test-sets, you can consider that premium and free version would get same results.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:35:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/798248"><b>Test Man6</b></A> : One minor thing to keep in my mind regarding these results is that Avira Premium was the program tested.I hear that the difference between Avira Premium and Avira free is that there is more spyware/adware definitions in Premium.<br>At any rate these results will cause a lot of users to seriously consider Avira for their a/v needs.<br>Rightfully so.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1366491"><b>Frisky</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Jer03 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1383850"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>but at the present it is not good enough so that I would consider it.<br><br>Jerry<br> </DIV>Version 3 is obsolete. There havn't been any emulator/unpacking improvements since almost 2 years! V3 includes a "basic" dos virus heuristic and that's it. Building up a solid AV isn't done in a few weeks (even if newcomers in this business having a slightly different oppinion...) The next thing which i want to point out is don't expect miracles from the new version. We have added a lot of "freedom" for later usuage such as a topnotch script emulation, generic unpacking etc. However, even if the emulator is able to unpack almost all we will add static unpacking as well for keeping our trend as fast and reliable AV solution with a reasonable low amount of system resources usage. Those facts are difficult to "combine" but we'll do our best ;-)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 09:11:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1383850"><b>Jer03</b></A> : I am looking forward to the test with the new F-Prot. I hope it is significantly improved in the detection area, but at the present it is not good enough so that I would consider it.<br><br>Jerry]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:23:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : I agree....especially with Avira being free! <br><br>It surprises me how much McAfee and Bit Defender have dropped...especially their trojan detection. I would want BoClean for sure if I had either of those (or Norton). <br><br>F-Prot results are mostly worthless because the old version was used. I can't wait for the next on demand tests to see how F-Prot, with the Inspector now at the helm, does when the new version is tested. F-Prot has a valid official objection also to some of the samples used for the macro scanning to which IBK concedes. IBK says F-Prot version 4 does MUCH better than version 3 and that a comparison between the two is soon forthcoming.<br><SMALL>--<br>"If you want to do DRM on a PC then you need to treat the user as the enemy." Ross Anderson in "`Trusted Computing' Frequently Asked Questions"<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.ie7.com/" >www.ie7.com/</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:35:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><b>GuruGuy</b></A> : Their website shows 49.95 euro with a 10% discount....44.95<br><br>That is 57.61 US dollars per a euro converter to us dollars<br><br>Not worth it~!<br><SMALL>--<br>GuruGuy</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:13:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: VERY interesting latest AV Comparatives test</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : I have no idea. :( A Google search for G data antiviruskit USA price produces a crack site as the first choice. Nothing in the search results led me to a USA price.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:10:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/737689"><b>GuruGuy</b></A> : Gdata US Dollar price is what?<br><SMALL>--<br>GuruGuy</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:50:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1372535"><b>data</b></A> : This seems to me very unprofessional coz Avira produces a lot of FPs on my system, especially on installers of various plugins I have.<br><br>An antivirus MAY NOT FLAG files packed with strange runtime packers as supicious and just thanks to this win a test !]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:21:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170670"><b>JTM1051</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  FiOS Dan <A HREF="/useremail/u/424692"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><SMALL>Error 404 - File not found<br><br>The requested file could not be found. ...</SMALL> </DIV>If you clink on the link provided by SurfinGenie it will not work because AV-Comparative does not allow links to subpages as noted in paragraph at bottom of Comparative tests list/box:<br><br><I>"Please link ONLY to our main site www.av-comparatives.org and not to the other subpages.<br>It's forbidden to use/provide our test results/documents on other sites without our permission.<br>If you find anything on other sites, please inform the forum/site admin to remove it."</I>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:03:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/855835"><b>CajunTek</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  dadkins <A HREF="/useremail/u/879997"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Wasn't there a few minutes ago... Thanks Amy! :)<br> </DIV>Was too...  :o  ;)<br><SMALL>--<br>da Cajun  Darn I hate Malware</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:44:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/879997"><b>dadkins</b></A> : Wasn't there a few minutes ago... Thanks Amy! :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/122916"><b>amysheehan</b></A> : How to:<br><br>:)<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/16821408?c=1057471&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNjgyMDMxNi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="145133 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=375 SRC="/r0/download/1057471.thumb600~5d62c2291be1019b0807a20f0299daa9/AV Comp start.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/16821408?c=1057472&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNjgyMDMxNi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="160672 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=375 SRC="/r0/download/1057472.thumb600~582915d668d1813a127ff8831e8c1e02/AV Comp click next.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:28:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/855835"><b>CajunTek</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  FiOS Dan <A HREF="/useremail/u/424692"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><SMALL>Error 404 - File not found<br><br>The requested file could not be found.<br><br>Please ensure that you are trying to access the correct URL. Only links to our main site are allowed.<br><br>If you have reached this error message from one of your "bookmarks" or "internet favourites" then please update the bookmark/favourite. <br>If you have reached this error message by following an out-of-date link from a web page then please inform the person responsible for that web page, so that the link may be corrected or removed.</SMALL><br><br> :hmm:<br> </DIV>Yeah, I get that too... But on the main page I can find this from the Comparatives link on the left:<br>11.&#9;On-demand comparative&#9;August 2006&#9;Online results / PDF (Zip) / Report<br><br>The online results, PDF and report are all working links for me..<br><SMALL>--<br>da Cajun  Darn I hate Malware</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:24:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/424692"><b>FiOS Dan</b></A> : <SMALL>Error 404 - File not found<br><br>The requested file could not be found.<br><br>Please ensure that you are trying to access the correct URL. Only links to our main site are allowed.<br><br>If you have reached this error message from one of your "bookmarks" or "internet favourites" then please update the bookmark/favourite. <br>If you have reached this error message by following an out-of-date link from a web page then please inform the person responsible for that web page, so that the link may be corrected or removed.</SMALL><br><br> :hmm:<br><SMALL>--<br><I>Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway.</I><br></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:18:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1174938"><b>SurfinGenie</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  altermatt <A HREF="/useremail/u/937228"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>That's odd...when I go to that link (which is the main page), it says the latest one is still not available. Do you have a direct link to the test results?<br> </DIV>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.av-comparatives.org" >www.av-comparatives.org</A>        /seiten/ergebnisse_2006_08.php<br><br>_K_<br><SMALL>--<br>Surf safely !!!</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:15:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/424692"><b>FiOS Dan</b></A> : NA here as well.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:08:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/855835"><b>CajunTek</b></A> : Is for  me...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:33:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/937228"><b>altermatt</b></A> : That's odd...when I go to that link (which is the main page), it says the latest one is still not available. Do you have a direct link to the test results?<br><SMALL>--<br>The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it. &#9;-- Stanley Kubrick</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:28:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : Latest AV On Demand Comparatives test is out.<br><br>1.GDATA<br>2.AVIRA<br>3.FSecure<br>4.Kaspersky<br>5.NOD32<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.av-comparatives.org/" >www.av-comparatives.org/</A><br><br>EDIT: Sorry, the ranking I gave is slightly wrong. It was about 2AM here when I saw the results of the test and I completely missed Trustport being a little above NOD32 in the overall rankings.<br><br>No. 5 should read: Trustport AV<br>No. 6 should read: NOD32]]></description>
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