http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16831329 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:11:20 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:11:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16955683 JohnA :
Depends where you're at. ExGTE is DHCP and requires the cloning or a shut down for 2 hours. ExBA is PPPoE and requires your Verizon Username and Password to authenticate. You are obviously the latter.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16955683 Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:22:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16955622 anon : I just got mine to work....and you don't have to do anything fancy. I just set up my house and my neighbors house. First time it took me 3 hours, the second time it took 3 minutes.

Linksys WRT54G with a Westell 6100 model on Verizon DSL.

Go into the modem and set everything to bridge, then turn off DHCP.

Enter the setup of the router (make sure you have everything set to factory defaults). Change the Internet Connection Type from Automatic Configuration DHCP to PPPoE. Enter your DSL credentials from the modem under username/password.

You are now officially on the Internet. I went through all of the steps of cloning my MAC address, rebooting pc's routers and modems and nothing worked. I'm not sure how much the guy from Linksys/Cisco makes (the one that wrote the "how to" on the Linksys website) but I'm sure it's probably too much.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16955622 Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:13:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16873554 larik3 : dont blame verizon please sir, third party routers are reponsability of manufactures.
Thinking that linksys support its on india i will help you

disconnect router, connect the modem directly to the computer
access the westell copy MAC address from the westell, put it bridge mode not routed bridge, disable dhcp server,
reconnect the router go to advance mac cloning type the address of the modem, be sure that u have the option automatic configuration obtain an ipaddress - dchp and joy internet access again.... how ever if u want to be connected with MAC address of the router u will need release MAC address of the modem

before go to sleep, turn off the modem ------z hard reset on the router hard reset its for about 2 minutes holding reset button, turn it off and leave everything off including the computer for 1 day and next day surprise.... u will be connected with the MAC address of the router, remember the maxium time needed to release mac address from the central office its 4 hours with nothing authenticating in ur house

post a message if it works for u]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16873554 Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:15:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16832129 anon : Try this sir. Since you said that your connection through Verizon is dhcp, set the Internet Configuration type of the router to Automatic Configuration.

Input verizon.net as Domain name.

After that turn off computer >> router >> modem.

Turn on modem first, router then lastly the computer. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16832129 Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:16:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16831329 anon : Read the information on the shopireland website, I am going to try the advice tomorrow, but I can't get back to you. it's at:

»www.shopireland.ie/electronics/d···008DOYO/
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Verizon and WRT54G
Rating: - Pissed Off

I have setup literally 100s of Routers on DSL and Cable Modems for friends and Co-workers. I have run into issues before but was always able to get them resolved. That is until I ran into setting up a WRT54G up with a Westell 6100 Modem (Verizon DSL). I have bridged the modem, cloned the Mac, changed the IP of the modem, powered it off and on multiple times and have never gotten it too connect. Its not the router, its the crappy modem from Verizon.
So save yourself alot of headaches if you have Verizon DSL with a Westell 6100 Modem and stay away from a router. Purchase the WAP54G Wireless Access Point instead, that Way you don't have to screw around with trying to get the modem to talk to the router
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I am definitely going to take this up with Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16831329 Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:14:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16787726 anon : When you put your modem into bridge mode, you disable its routing capabilities and turn it into a dumb modem. You won't (and shouldn't) be able to access its configuration menu from your internal network anymore, because it's no longer routing packets -- it's simply passing everything along between the external network and the Linksys router.

If you want to access your modem's configuration menu when it's in bridge mode, you have to connect a computer directly to one of the modem's LAN ports (not through the router), and assign the computer a static IP address within the modem's subnet. If you've configured the modem as 192.168.2.1/24, for example, give your computer a static IP of 192.168.2.2 and a gateway address of 192.168.2.1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16787726 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 03:31:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16784449 Jodokast96 : Verizon uses both PPPoE and DHCP. It depends on your location. Ex-GTE areas are DHCP, and ex-BA areas are PPPoE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16784449 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:24:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16784175 glemlin : Fios uses different equipment all together, so it's not a matter of changing, just putting in place. Honestly, I think most people have more trouble with dhcp than pppoe due to the mac bindings. Have a problem, can't always resolve it yourself in five minutes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16784175 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:32:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16783516 astokes : Well new Verizon Fios customers are now put onto DHCP, are they doing the same to new DSL customers too?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16783516 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:13:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16782922 anon : I have tried everything. Bridged the modem, cloned the Mac, changed IP of Modem so its not the same as the router. When I try to get the router to connect it tries three times and then says `Cannot get IP from PPPOE Server`
Does Verizon use PPPOE or not?
Verizon sucks as an ISP!!!!! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16782922 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:33:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16731172 borredo : Did you try setting the dns servers to 4.2.2.1 & 4.2.2.2, or dns software like treewalk, which I've used for a couple years?

»www.ntcanuck.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16731172 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:40:43 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16731092 BradP8 : Gleimlin, thank you. I think we are getting somewhere now.

Yes, the support person at Verizon said he was actually able to see the router and even got its MAC address or whatever info he needed from it. At that point he did switch the binding. He also told me at that point, the green Internet connect light should NOT be on in the modem (is this correct?) But for some reason, I still had no internet access. The router was unable to connect to get net access. And the PC was still dead in the water, getting an IP from the router, but no internet. I tried it both with its own MAC address as well as cloning the Westell's to it.

Anything else I might have been doing wrong?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16731092 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:48:38 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16728904 glemlin : The reason you can't access the modem once you've bridge it is the fact you disabled its internal dhcp server. You need to specifically assign your computer a valid ip (eg 192.168.1.47) to connect to it at this point. Also, if you can still connect when going straight through the modem, unless you reset it, it is not bridged. If it is bridged, cloning the mac address should work. If it doesn't ensure the router itself is set for dhcp (automatic). Check and see if the router itself is receiving a valid ip range (66-73.x) and connecting from the status tab. Otherwise, they may have to release the mac binding (the so called repointing they said they did). They actually just remove the current setting which is for the westell's mac address, allowing the linksys to attempt its connection and binding to it. If they were able to release it, they should have been able to tell you if it bound to the linksys or not as well. Otherwise, to do it yourself, bridge the modem, connect the router, ensure the router is set for dhcp and unplug the phone cable for the night. It should work in the morning assuming everything is done correctly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16728904 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:43:55 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16725723 Jodokast96 : When you turn off the modems DHCP, it is for the internal private network. You want to turn it off so that the Linksys can handle internal DHCP. That has nothing to do with the Verizon side DHCP. In a nutshell, Verizon uses DHCP to assign your modem an Ip on their network, and in turn your modem uses it's DHCP to assign the individual pc's on your network Ip's. If you don't turn it off you will have both the modem and the router trying to give out ip's to the pc's (and each other) on your home network, which could confuse the hell out of everthing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16725723 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:39:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16725646 BradP8 : Yep, followed it step by step, and then started over and did it with the tech on the phone (including mac cloning). Between the line tests and the delays the call took forever, even though I work fast. It was frustrating as all heck.

Not sure where to go from here. The big difference is that this modem is using DHCP and not PPPOE, so I worry about turning off the modem's DHCP ability.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16725646 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:28:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16725620 Jodokast96 : Just to make sure, you followed this, right? »Verizon Online DSL FAQ »How do I use a router with the Westell 6100?. There is another link at the end of that dealing with the MAC cloning.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16725620 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:25:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16724810 BradP8 : I want to start by saying I have installed many wireless routers for friends and family, very PC literate and never had a problem setting up a network before. Until last night.

I had a total nightmare and still cannot get a friend's Westell 6100 Verizon DSL modem to work with a Linksys WRT54GS router. After doing all my research online here at this wonderful site, I had all my ammo in hand (how to turn the Westell to bridge mode, changing its address, turning off DHCP, cloning the MAC, etc). Figured I'd be done in 15 minutes.

After not being successful I called tech support because I thought I needed the PPPoE username and password. They gave it to me, later to just inform me that the modem does NOT use PPPoE, but uses DHCP to obtain an internet connection!

I had 3 techs over the 3 hours I was on the phone. The first was the best and seemed to know the problem, but in the end still passed me off to Linksys tech support (who were clueless) after having me make the same changes to the Westell that I'd already done as I read here.

Here's what I did to the modem:

1. Logged into Westell 6100, changed from Routed Bridge to Bridge. Reset.
2. Turned off DHCP.
3. Changed address of modem from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1.

Now, at this point I was no longer able to connect to the modem, no matter what. Typing 192.168.2.1 would no longer get me into the modem's interface. For some reason the modem only lets you in when it's at the default address, I guess? Also, the green INTERNET light on the modem no longer lit once I made the settings changes.

So, my first question -- Now that I know we are using DHCP and not PPPoE as all the helper FAQs here point out, do I still change the Westell settings the same?

At any rate, I did go on to the Linksys and changed its IP to 192.168.1.10 (from 192.168.1.1) just to keep both devices away from that popular 192.168.1.1. I also attempted to clone the MAC address of the Westell, which I'd prevously recorded. Did many full powerdowns, many release/renews over this process. Nothing.

As long as I leave the Westell settings alone, connecting it directly to the PC gets me internet. The router also does assign an IP to the PC just fine when it's connected (so it's working fine). But the westell just does not pass the internet signal through into that router. I can not get an IP/connection on the router status screen with the Westell connected.

Can anyone offer up this tired tech any suggestions? I can't believe I wasted 3 hours and got nowhere.

What I really need to know is this:

1) With a DHCP (not PPPoE connection) being used by Verizon in the Westell, do I still disable Westell's DHCP, turn routed bridge to bride, and change the modem's 192.168.1.1 address?

2) Do I still clone the MAC address to the Linksys?

3) Should I still see a green light in the INTERNET status for the Westell? The Verizon tech last night who seemed to know stuff told me that Internet light should be out on the Westell. He even changed an entry in THEIR systems which pointed to the router, not the modem's address, which then further complicated my ability to get the modem to work direct connected. That's since been changed back, but what a mess.

Help?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16724810 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:22:01 EDT