 Thrudd
join:2004-06-21
Mississauga, ON | Not a Fios person Call me silly, but why the heck did they yank the copper in the first place unless its to make some bucks on the salvage?
I find it the height of absurdity to put in the labour needed to yank the stuff, especially when the fibre is mostly installed where the copper used to be. That and the fibre system has no built-in backup if mains goes down.
Keeping the centralized backup systems would have been less pain and hassle in the long run than the cheap-ass user end backup power systems.
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 | | Re: Not a Fios person said by Thrudd:Call me silly, but why the heck did they yank the copper in the first place unless its to make some bucks on the salvage? To save the costs of MAINTAINING the copper plant. Which is one of the reasons for rolling out fiber in the 1st place. So, you propose keeping an old technology in place, with all the extra costs, just to provide service for the 1 or 2 times per year it may be needed. There are easier ways to maintain service during power outages than maintaining 100 yr old technology. Others in this thread have already mentioned them - extra battery backup; UPS systems; etc. If having a phone with 365x24 access is critical to you, provide the extra backup. Others don't need that level of protection.
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 | | | Re: Not a Fios person They don't yank it so they dont have to maintain it. They yank it so you no longer have a convenient choice in who you use for service.
An unused line is an unused line. Just like the 4 "extra" copper lines I have coming into my house that are no longer used. They don't maintain them because they arent used. | |
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|  GlenQuagmireGiggidy Giggidy Giggidy GooPremium
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Grand Rapids, MI | You do have a point. On one hand having to maintain a network that is up to 100 years old is very costly, second if telephone companies what to be really successful at competing with cable companies they have no choice but to upgrade to FTTH. Over the next 50 years I see all of the telcos upgrading their network to FTTH. Also, with the cost of copper going up their will come a point in time where it is cheaper to install fiber instead of copper. If FTTH ever comes to my area I will be one of the first customers in my neighbor but with that said I will get my self a deep cycle RV battery as a backup. At least that should give 24 hours of backup. Fiber is the future you can either accept it or not have a phone line.
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| The copper out on the poles is 50 years old. You know what happens to copper over time: jackets crack, elements get in, oxidation, and static joy!!!
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| Thrudd
join:2004-06-21
Mississauga, ON | Re: Not a Fios person If having a phone with 365x24 access is critical to you, provide the extra backup. Others don't need that level of protection.
Uhm, that's the whole idea of having a landline phone. 911 and all that fun stuff, Communication availability during emergencies. The cell systems have already shown their capabilities in that regard, which is why the local ARES is part of nearly every disaster response system.
But anyhow .... what I was getting at was keeping the lines for power distribution. Well either that or include power through the shielding/reinforcing/armor and salvage the mega$ in copper.
The distributed backup at point of use hearkens back to the days of Edison selling a DC generator in every home. So what if there were a few electrocutions and a fire or two? | |
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|  ShamayimI already have a Messiah.Premium
join:2002-09-23 | said by cableties:The copper out on the poles is 50 years old. You know what happens to copper over time: jackets crack, elements get in, oxidation, and static joy!!! Have you seen what copper goes for on the open market??? That's exactly why they reclaim the copper. Prices are through the roof. Today they would no more leave copper wires behind than silver wires.
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| | | | Re: Not a Fios person BellSouth has a department tasked solely with removing old copper. It makes the company literally millions each year. | |
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