 Sweet WitchBe the flame, not the moth.Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-15
Gallifrey | Why? Why do they yank the copper?? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard an industry doing and I'm sure turns many off making the switch.
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| The stupidest thing I culd ever hear is a company maintaining 2 different wire networks to every house. USE YOUR HEAD PEOPLE ! You want FiOS technology, you have to sacrafice the copper.. end of story.
Until the day we develop the technology to harness the energy from a beam of light to supply 50 volts to your telephone.. YES you will need battery backups.
Why is this "news" again?? Because its pro-cable.. anti-tel... and this is BBR. |
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Sweet WitchBe the flame, not the moth.Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-15
Gallifrey | I asked because the copper is already there so why spend the extra manpower ripping it out instead of just leaving it there and disconnected.
No need to be rude or sarcastic.
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 CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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JoelC707Premium
join:2002-07-09
Stone Mountain, GA
kudos:4 | reply to Sweet Witch
Are you talking about the trunk lines spanning from pole to pole or the few pairs coming from the pole to your house? Unless they own the pole they have to pay attachment fees per pole. I don't know about other areas but Bellsouth here in Atlanta pays something like $50 per pole, per month. That adds up quick when you think of how many hundreds if not thousands of poles they are attached to in even a small city let alone a city like Atlanta. I don't know about areas that use underground lines but I'm sure something would have to get paid to the DOT or somebody since they are trenching in their right of way. |
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 SteveConIBEW 2222 Boston, MAPremium
join:2004-09-02
Boston, MA | reply to Sweet Witch
They rip out the copper to protect their investment.
They move all services from the aging copper plant and invest Billions (yes - that's a "B") in a new, fiber plant that will be much cheaper to maintain - and allow more services on.
If they leave copper up, you could arrange for dial tone service via CLEC (competitive local exchange carrier - AT&T, etc). There are no laws mandating access for CLEC's to your home over fiber, only over copper. If you want someone other than the ILEC's (incumbent local exchange carrier - your local regional bell or equal) dial tone, they'll have to run their own lines to serve your house, not use the ILEC's old copper wires - which by the way - the ILEC would still have to maintain.
A CLEC can offer cheap dial tone service when they don't have the costs of maintaining the plant. Let's see just how many want to string their own wires up and do it for that same "cheap rate". |
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| A CLEC can offer cheap dial tone service when they don't have the costs of maintaining the plant. Let's see just how many want to string their own wires up and do it for that same "cheap rate". The cost of the line and it's maintenance is factored into the cost the CLEC pays, it just doesn't include profit for the ILEC. This is a regulated price which is backed up by the ILEC to the local public utility commission charged with the price regulation. In other words the ILEC gets to set this price by providing backup on actual costs.
The ILEC is pulling the copper so they can reduce competition, it has nothing to do with the cost of the copper plant maintenance as that is already paid for with regulated line prices. Verizon pulls the copper to prevent competition, not to save costs that are already paid for AND provide a state guaranteed profit. |
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| The prce an ILEC pay is a mythical rice thatthe FCC feels ought to elimiate profit for the ILEC. How much does it cost to maintain 3 customers in a 25 pr cable vrsus 10 customers? Not a lot of difference in maintenance but a huge difference in profit. If they have to maintain a few customers across a huge network then thy're just acting as welfare for the CLEC |
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