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Techie714

join:2005-08-02
Anaheim, CA

Thats Cool!

That's pretty cool

Is this a good idea for small towns & if not why?

Are you upset this was paid for with some of your tax dollars rather than private industry?

Warez_Zealot
Rural land of the rising sun

join:2006-04-19
japan

Isnt that the purpose of taxes? It's suppoesd to go back into the comunity, not companies and politicians. and $500 000 of tax money is nothing compared to what is stolen in defence and disaster relief funds (paid by tax payers).



royhandy
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reply to Techie714
Am I upset that federal dollars were used for this? Not at all. Apparently private industry was not lining up to offer these folks a viable broadband alternative.
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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to Techie714

said by Techie714:

That's pretty cool

Is this a good idea for small towns & if not why?

Are you upset this was paid for with some of your tax dollars rather than private industry?
I would be more upset if a private entity came in and stopped this project on the "promise" that they would be served in the future.

Jamuka

join:2005-06-06

reply to royhandy
And therefore its the federal governments responsibility to provide this???!!!! How about all those who don't have a car too, have the feds give them one since "private industry" (read car dealerships) won't provide one for them. Oh and make mine a Mercedes while you're at it. Since the feds are paying for it I might as well drive in style.

What a BS argument.



fAcEtIOUs
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reply to Techie714

said by Techie714:

That's pretty cool

Is this a good idea for small towns & if not why?

Are you upset this was paid for with some of your tax dollars rather than private industry?

YES
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Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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said by Jamuka:

And therefore its the federal governments responsibility to provide this???!!!! How about all those who don't have a car too, have the feds give them one since "private industry" (read car dealerships) won't provide one for them. Oh and make mine a Mercedes while you're at it. Since the feds are paying for it I might as well drive in style.

What a BS argument.
At least people can go to a car dealership and BUY a car if they want. It's not like these folks have broadband available to them but just don't want to pay for it.

I for one am glad to see my tax dollars FINALLY being used for something worthy of the 1/3rd of my salary taken from me each month.
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PhoenixDown
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Fresh Meadows, NY
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How about all those who don't have a car too, have the feds give them one since "private industry" (read car dealerships) won't provide one for them
They did, its called mass transit.
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Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26

reply to fAcEtIOUs


The federal govenment gives grants of money all the time for such things as roads, bridges, etc. It's what federal programs are for and it's what's supposed to happen with tax money coming backi to states and municipalities.

I'm delighted to see that this town took the initiative and partnered with the local phone co op to get this done. There are, I'm sure, many other towns that could do this very same thing, instead of whining about franchise money and dicking with/around the telcos and cablecos.

If more towns like this and larger took the initiative it would take the bargaining wind out of the incumbents sails and they'd quit dicking us around.



fAcEtIOUs
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said by Fatal Vector:

The federal govenment gives grants of money all the time for such things as roads, bridges, etc. It's what federal programs are for and it's what's supposed to happen with tax money coming backi to states and municipalities.
Well, the problem I have with that $585,000 federal grant that they gave back to the local community is that they probably had to collect $750,000(I'm being conservative here) to fund all the federal bureaucratic slugs that sucked out the difference to manage the program. Multiply this 1 billion times and that is why the federal government should stay out of state and local funding. The Feds should stick to national defense and international political relations and stay out of everything else.
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shashinka

join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA

reply to Jamuka
Your comment is BS. The tax money goes toward helping the community. Giving someone a Car is totally different, DUH, whack



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join:2002-10-02
PwnZone

reply to PhoenixDown
owned


grandpinaple

join:2006-01-03
New York, NY

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reply to shashinka
200 people paying taxes for 10 years means only 250$ per person in grants. Now think about this 100$ per month for internet, phone, and cable. Let's say 20% of that goes toward repaying the 500,000. That is one year and you are in the clear. I'm usually against more government squabling of our tax money, but think of it this way it was either this or some highway in Alaska.


grandpinaple

join:2006-01-03
New York, NY

reply to fAcEtIOUs
All in all it seems like a drop in the bucket, the principle of the matter may be a little bad, but I think the price is actually not to bad for what the town has probably paid in taxes over the years. That and it will probably pay for itself rather soon. See my above post on the numbers. It was either this or some highway in Alaska.


hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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reply to fAcEtIOUs
We have all seen what happens when the Feds (current leaders) get into the international political relations; a damn war is started for what; the stupid idiot was elected wanted to get revenge at a guy that tried to kill his dad 14+ years ago, and thinks he can become King of the world. So what's the difference of bombing a country that we're just rebuilding then giving the money back to the people that actually paid it? Not a damn thing. At least these people have a real use for it.

We'll today we all seen in the news what happens when 1 person tries to play King, They step down or threaten to get fired by the Queen.



AnonymousPerson

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reply to Techie714
»www.usconstitution.net/const.html

I have read the entire US Constitution, and I cannot find a single passage in it authorizing the federal government to do this. The only thing that applies to this is an implicit ban against it in the 10th ammendment, which would make this a gross misappropriation of funds and an indication of massive corruption in the federal government. I am not surprised. The Democratic party started this back in 1932 with FDR and it continues to this day. The Department of Agriculture was established under FDR. It was intended to supply the US troops in Europe with food, a time during which it was Constitutional because it coordinated logistics for the military. After the war, it was no longer necessary, yet it stayed in the federal government, taking on roles other than logistics for the military and therefore becoming Unconstitutional. It should be dismantled, and if anyone wants to take a stab at President Bush, his failure to dismantle the Department of Agriculture is one of the best ways to do it. Grilling him over his failure to dismantle The Department of Education (school subsides like NCLB, loans, paying property taxes to local and state governments on property taken by eminent domain, etcetera; all in violation of the 10th ammendment and therefore unconstitutional), Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are other ways to take a stab at him.



AnonymousPerson

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reply to PhoenixDown
Mass transmit is owned and operated by the local governments. The federal government does not own or operate it.



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reply to AnonymousPerson
But its ok to take money and blow the head off some infants in Iraq right? Or how about using our tax money to support Israel or free health and schooling care for 15,000,000 illegal aliens. Or even better yet, take the army out of Afghanistan where UBL and the Taliban are and send them to Iraq where noting is but oil and at the same time keep yelling 9/11 every chance you get.

I think is much better to fund public works projects in out home land.
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Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26

reply to hottboiinnc
"We have all seen what happens when the Feds (current leaders) get into the international political relations; a damn war is started for what; the stupid idiot was elected wanted to get revenge at a guy that tried to kill his dad 14+ years ago, and thinks he can become King of the world. So what's the difference of bombing a country that we're just rebuilding then giving the money back to the people that actually paid it? Not a damn thing. At least these people have a real use for it.

We'll today we all seen in the news what happens when 1 person tries to play King, They step down or threaten to get fired by the Queen."

You liberals just cant see anything through your hate, can you? Youll take any opportunity to repeat this stupid stuff and you dont seem to realize that it just makes YOU look stupid.

I'm not going to be redundant here about Iraq or this revenge idiocy, because it obviously has failed to penetrate.

Really, you should be embarassed to post stuff like this.



DreamWraith
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join:2004-04-07
Mount Vernon, WA

reply to AnonymousPerson
Correct.

However, the federal government provides grants to cities based on polution control efforts. Mass transit is a big deal for getting federal grants.

If it werent for federal grants, my local transit would not exist.


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