| ~$2300 per person for FTTP! sounds good to me.
total project cost, ~$1.1 million/435 residents=~$2300
Of that amount, ~$600,000 was federal grant.
Total U.S. population, ~300 million.
Cost per person for this subsidy: ~0.2 cents/person
I am not seeing the problem here.
If there is a problem, there are other much larger problems that deserve citizens' attention first.
E.g., the Iraq war is above $300 billion
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(~$1000 / citizen or 500,000 times the cost/citizen of the federal grant to Nickelsville, VA) |
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| The problem is this is just one of the many federal handout programs. None of them are right, and by supporting this one with your tax dollars you are effectively endorsing their behavior. Letting them steal your income via taxation for anything is opening the door for more and more government tyranny. The Iraq war is just another example. |
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| You libertarians are kind of cute, as is the Utopian fictional universe you frequently lecture from. I'd love to see the country were we to abolish all your dreaded social programs, kill off taxation, and rely on pure good will.
Our system may be utterly dysfunctional, but your replacement is pure fantasy. |
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| said by Karl Bode:You libertarians are kind of cute, as is the Utopian fictional universe you frequently lecture from. I'd love to see the country were we to abolish all your dreaded social programs, kill off taxation, and rely on pure good will. I hear we had that country once. The Constitution and sticking to the law is a "cute" idea. Libertarians are not the ones promising the world and utopia, but the democrats and republicans thrive upon doing just that. Libertarians understand the world is not perfect and there will never be "utopia" and the best thing the governemtn can do is get the hell out of the way and leave us alone. democrats want to be your mommy, republicans want to be your daddy, and Libertarians just want to be treated like adults. |
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And, Libertarians, once allowed at the power trough would soon be just like the democrats and republicans. It would be interesting to see how our country would handle the current, let alone past threats in your fantasy universe.
Libertarians dont seem to understand human nature, either.
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The Constitution and sticking to the law is a "cute" idea.
Where does the Constitution say a group of citizens can't vote, together, to improve their town's infrastructure?
You guys are 99.8% rhetoric, .1% taxation whining, and .1% practicality. |
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The entire Libertarian philosophy is based primarily upon human nature. |
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Yes, I'm sure it is. Maybe that's why Libertarianism finds little traction in the US population?
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1 edit | Step 1: Daddy and I stop paying taxes and funding social programs
Step 2: People everywhere die, disaster victims suffer
Step 3: Daddy and I buy new boats
Step 4: Nirvana!
It's greed dressed up as an ideology and ethos. |
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said by Karl Bode:Where does the Constitution say a group of citizens can't vote, together, to improve their town's infrastructure? The article is about a small town receiving a half-million dollar federal handout that neither Americans or their elected representatives voted for. If their locality wanted to do this and fund it themselves good on them. |
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2 edits | The USDA rural telecom loan program was part of the farm bill of 2002, passed by Senators. Senators who can in fact be held accountable at the polls.
There's many things that need fixing in this country, but your "solution" of eliminating taxation and all social programs (and suggesting no alternative) isn't any solution at all. It's utopian poetics that ends with a lot of people dying. |
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