 kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | reply to Gwailo
Re: "Turd Bird?" said by Gwailo:Sometimes I think Mr. Murdoch is the modern equivalent to Ted Turner. Both are "red necks" and both were a bit ahead of their time. At least Mr. Murdoch didn't marry Jane Fonda. Yeah, he did much worse: he introduced the sheer political lies &manipulations via so-called "news" programs. |
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join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX | Yeah, he did much worse: he introduced the sheer political lies & manipulations via so-called "news" programs.
Whoa ... you're implying Ted's CNN doesn't do the same thing with the opposite twist? Let them both report and let us decide. We're d--- lucky we have enough [current] press freedom to at least get two sides. Let us both hope we don't lose that because any time that Willie Bill wants to block a movie on ABC ... it's getting "scary," regardless if it was historically correct or not. |
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Funny, CNN is the Clinton News Network even according to Democratic Strategists. Ted also married Jane "Treason" Fonda, and Ted has a perverse hatred for anything Christian. I thought it was funny Ted lost billions in the AOL mess. |
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join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
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you write......
"regardless if it was historically correct or not."a willingness to accept lies as an acceptable portrayal of historical times in our countries history is pathetic don't you think? even making a statement like that is frightening. you're saying as long as it suits my side of the argument it's fine because it is good entertainment and it's fun to see the other side trashed on tv.. how many people will watch something like that and believe it. you sir sum up what is wrong with this country. "your" side has this us against them mentality as if this were a football game. the blaming of one political party over the other is exactly the problem .... remember the constitution? "We the People?" "We"...... their lies hurt your side as much as the other. they can put out as much propaganda as they wish but not many people are buying it anymore. 37% approval rating. after all 9/11 happened on George Bush's watch, one month after he ignored a report from the CIA titled "Bin Laden determined to attack the USA" plus how they screwed up Katrina..... go ahead and flame me. I'm for America not one party and frankly I'm a bit tired of being lied to by the party that controls all 3 branches of government plus I'm tired of getting screwed. |
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 TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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Eat your heart out CNN, don't you wish you had the viewer ratings these three have
Here have some heart burn Kamm |
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to kamm
said by kamm:Yeah, he did much worse: he introduced the sheer political lies &manipulations via so-called "news" programs. Perhaps you should write to your congressmen and ask them to shut down FOX News then, as they were quite happy to do threaten to do that to ABC when they exercised their rights to "free" speech.
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to Transmaster
said by Transmaster:Eat your heart out CNN Here have some heart burn Kamm LOL People still watch CNN? 
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TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to rachelsfx
said by rachelsfx:Funny, CNN is the Clinton News Network even according to Democratic Strategists. Ted also married Jane "Treason" Fonda, and Ted has a perverse hatred for anything Christian. I thought it was funny Ted lost billions in the AOL mess. Around here we call CNN the Communist News Network
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Transmaster:Around here we call CNN the Communist News Network I have got to get more creative... I've just been calling it crap
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bmn? ? ?Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
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said by Transmaster:Eat your heart out CNN, don't you wish you had the viewer ratings these three have Yeah, never underestimated the power of people unwilling or unable to think for theselves lapping it up from people telling them how to think all the while tossing fact to the wind... All pundits need to be dropped in the ocean... Except maybe for Colbert since he makes fun of all them.
As the punchline of the joke goes... It a would be "a good start."
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Gwailo
join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX | reply to rit56
Just the facts, mam.... |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to bmn
said by bmn:Yeah, never underestimated the power of people unwilling or unable to think for theselves lapping it up from people telling them how to think all the while tossing fact to the wind... Well, how many times has FOX News been caught in a deliberate lie? How does it measure up against other news outlets when it comes to getting caught in a major news-related scandal (i.e., something akin to the New York Times and the Jayson Blair scandal, CBS and the fake memos scandal, etc.)
It seems all of FOX News' detractors who claim that their content is somehow "fake" often don't realize that compared to other "news" sources, their record is actually pretty clean.
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Zoly
join:2004-01-04
Houston, TX | reply to pnh102
Yes, we are watching CNN!!! And loving it. And we love MSNBC too. Are there any other news networks in the US?
Nope. Trying to find something else withing the last 10 years with no results. Just don't tel me that FOXNEWS is a news channel.
And you know why they have such high rating? Cause all Christian fascists (they have noting in common with Christianity) and right-wing zealots are watching ITS.
And we have lots of those individuals now as there is a favorable condition for them created by Bushists. |
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TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to pnh102
Fox News didn't suck up to Saddam in Baghdad like CNN did, remember CNN let the goons at the Iraqi Ministry of Information censor their stories so they would not get kicked out of the country, and they failed to tell anybody listening about it.
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 morboComplete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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a true "turd bird" |
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join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:Well, how many times has FOX News been caught in a deliberate lie? Depends... Most of the lying on Fox comes from their commentary shows like O'Reilly, Hannity and others where its all about opinion and politics.
How does it measure up against other news outlets when it comes to getting caught in a major news-related scandal (i.e., something akin to the New York Times and the Jayson Blair scandal, CBS and the fake memos scandal, etc.) Most of the lying is the distortion or selective presentation of fact rather than an outright lie reported as news... Fox apparently knows that outright lies will get you slapped down, but if you present the news with your agenda subtlety enough, you don't need to lie.
It seems all of FOX News' detractors who claim that their content is somehow "fake" often don't realize that compared to other "news" sources, their record is actually pretty clean. When it comes to outright lies, yes. But Fox doesn't need to lie outright. It has its "commentators" of the Hannity and O'Reily ilk to do it for them.
Why a news channel needs such programming is beside me because political hacks like Hannity, O'Reilly, Franken, etc. etc. have NO NEWS VALUE. So, why put them on a NEWS channel ?
Fact is, the state of news media in America is declining... Fox is as big of a problem as the others.
There's a reason news is now called news-entertainment. Its not longer about the reporting of the day's FACTS, its about political and personal agendas and the deliberate distortion and selective introduction of fact, or in some cases, out right lies, to further an agenda while keeping the people glue to their television through the use of sensationalism.
Its odd how the media in American seems to resemble the Politbureau more and more...
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said by kamm:Yeah, he did much worse: he introduced the sheer political lies &manipulations via so-called "news" programs. Introduced? Even if you really believe all of Fox News is lies, you can't make a case that they were the first.
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If more Americans were willing to take the time to learn what's truly happening around them rather than being spoon-fed half-truths and propaganda, we wouldn't be suffering under an administration that has just this week made a determined, public effort to strike the prohibition against "offenses to personal dignity" from our methods of treatment for prisoners. It is disgusting that this is actually being debated in the United States of America. Worse yet that the right-wing crowd doesn't see anything wrong with that. They accuse the left of "blaming America first" while the righties in power whittle away our Constitutional rights, without care. Does that make them feel safer? Are they safer today than last year, two years ago, or five? No. But our country edges closer to disgrace.
As for Fox "News" ratings, they are no more impressive than the number of Roman citizens that would go to the Colloseum to watch Christians tortured. Ol' Rupert is laughing all the way to the bank, as his "news" network producers wait for the next dead blonde white girl and Old Glory waves in the lower corner of the TV screen. And the fools who buy their brand of propaganda think they're getting the straight scoop because Bill O'Reilly, whose father never loved him, can and does shout down his guests. Welcome to American entertainment, 2006. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to bmn
said by bmn:Depends... Most of the lying on Fox comes from their commentary shows like O'Reilly, Hannity and others where its all about opinion and politics. If you look at someone like Bill O'Reilly, the most trouble he's been in was not due to his lying in his presentation, but rather due to sexually herassing a female coworker. Again, that's not lying.
As for the other commentators, where have any of them been involved in a scandal such as the ones I mentioned with the NYT, CBS (and CNN, as was mentioned in another post)? I guarantee that if any FOX News contributor was caught in such a lie, it would still be the lead story on every other network even to this day.
said by bmn:Most of the lying is the distortion or selective presentation of fact rather than an outright lie reported as news... Fox apparently knows that outright lies will get you slapped down, but if you present the news with your agenda subtlety enough, you don't need to lie. So then they are not lying.
said by bmn:Why a news channel needs such programming is beside me because political hacks like Hannity, O'Reilly, Franken, etc. etc. have NO NEWS VALUE. So, why put them on a NEWS channel ? This practice is not exclusive to FOX News. CNN and MSNBC also have their fair share of opinionated commentators. While they may not be charged with presenting the news per se, there is obviously a value in having opinionated commentary (when it is presented as such).
said by bmn:Fact is, the state of news media in America is declining... Fox is as big of a problem as the others. Again though, of all the major news outlets, FOX News has avoided falling into the "Fake News" traps that have ensnared other news organizations. I would dare say that the "decline" of other news outlets is due moreso to the poor quality of the product (i.e., a lack of even basic fact checking) than anything else.
said by bmn:There's a reason news is now called news-entertainment. Its not longer about the reporting of the day's FACTS, its about political and personal agendas and the deliberate distortion and selective introduction of fact, or in some cases, out right lies, to further an agenda while keeping the people glue to their television through the use of sensationalism. I'm assuming that this is a commentary on other media outlets including FOX News. The only problem with this assertion is that it is all the news organizations which have been caught in outright lies that are having a ratings problem. FOX News doesn't fall into this category.
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join:2001-11-28
Ohio
kudos:1 | reply to morbo
I wonder if God will answer a prayer that goes against one of his 10 commandments? Your post wins the award for one of the most tasteless. |
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