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Re: "Turd Bird?" said by pnh102:If you look at someone like Bill O'Reilly, the most trouble he's been in was not due to his lying in his presentation, but rather due to sexually herassing a female coworker. Again, that's not lying. Getting caught sleeping with a female co-worker is not lying... He, however, does lie when he misrepresents the facts of the day and distorts. For anyone to say that O'Reilly (or any of the others for that matter) does not lie is to be naive at best and complicate at worst.
As for the other commentators, where have any of them been involved in a scandal such as the ones I mentioned with the NYT, CBS (and CNN, as was mentioned in another post)? Lying, distortion and misrepresentation is still lying, distortion or misrepresentation, regardless of the size of it.
said by bmn:Most of the lying is the distortion or selective presentation of fact rather than an outright lie reported as news... Fox apparently knows that outright lies will get you slapped down, but if you present the news with your agenda subtlety enough, you don't need to lie. So then they are not lying.
Again though, of all the major news outlets, FOX News has avoided falling into the "Fake News" traps that have ensnared other news organizations. Because Fox knows its better to make a 1000 distortions over a period of time instead of one large Fake story that you can get hung for eventually.
I would dare say that the "decline" of other news outlets is due moreso to the poor quality of the product (i.e., a lack of even basic fact checking) than anything else. Its more of an audience issue than anything... The news has to placate to the LCD. You can't expect high quality news when a majority of the audience can't digest it.
said by bmn:There's a reason news is now called news-entertainment. Its not longer about the reporting of the day's FACTS, its about political and personal agendas and the deliberate distortion and selective introduction of fact, or in some cases, out right lies, to further an agenda while keeping the people glue to their television through the use of sensationalism. I'm assuming that this is a commentary on other media outlets including FOX News. The only problem with this assertion is that it is all the news organizations which have been caught in outright lies that are having a ratings problem. FOX News doesn't fall into this category.
Fact is that there is no longer a unbiased news source left anymore that gives its audience the facts to make a decision on their own anymore. Unbiased news is dead.
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