 ZaberWhen all are gone, there shall be none
join:2000-06-08
Cleveland, OH | reply to riturno
Re: Sorry to say.... said by riturno:This is different because: 1) Because the Internet is more than HTTP and websites, and this behavior can affect the way the Internet operates for you. 2) You can control you applications. You cannot control this service. For instance, none of my computers running Firefox take me to Google if I type in a bad URL. As far as I know is is default behavior. You need to type in a URL with no www. or .xxx to trigger Google search in Firefox. And why can you not change your DNS servers to say 4.4.4.1 and 4.4.4.2 for example. You don't need to use your ISP's DNS, I don't. If this were VeriSign playing the god of domain names with sightfinder again, then this would worthy of outrage. This is just some two bit ISP trying to make another buck on the unsuspecting masses. Business as usual. If you don't like EL methods change providers, it is truly that simple. If you are one of the people that have no other choice (not sure that is anywhere for EL) my condolences.
As I said before I wish that the ISPs would not interfere with the content, but that is all that this is and can be bypassed with a very basic knowledge of how the Internet works.
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by Zaber:said by riturno:This is different because: 1) Because the Internet is more than HTTP and websites, and this behavior can affect the way the Internet operates for you. 2) You can control you applications. You cannot control this service. For instance, none of my computers running Firefox take me to Google if I type in a bad URL. As far as I know is is default behavior. You need to type in a URL with no www. or .xxx to trigger Google search in Firefox. And why can you not change your DNS servers to say 4.4.4.1 and 4.4.4.2 for example. You don't need to use your ISP's DNS, I don't. If this were VeriSign playing the god of domain names with sightfinder again, then this would worthy of outrage. This is just some two bit ISP trying to make another buck on the unsuspecting masses. Business as usual. If you don't like EL methods change providers, it is truly that simple. If you are one of the people that have no other choice (not sure that is anywhere for EL) my condolences. As I said before I wish that the ISPs would not interfere with the content, but that is all that this is and can be bypassed with a very basic knowledge of how the Internet works. Unfortunately Verizon isn't playing host to those with crappy DNS anymore 
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ZaberWhen all are gone, there shall be none
join:2000-06-08
Cleveland, OH | Unfortunately Verizon isn't playing host to those with crappy DNS anymore
I didn't even realize those were Verizon IPs, just very east to remember. I did a nslookup of 4.1 an 4.2:
> server 4.2.2.1
Default Server: vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
Address: 4.2.2.1
> gateworld.net
Server: vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
Address: 4.2.2.1
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: gateworld.net
Address: 74.52.37.54
> server 4.2.2.2
Default Server: vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net
Address: 4.2.2.2
> yahoo.com
Server: vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net
Address: 4.2.2.2
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: yahoo.com
Addresses: 66.94.234.13, 216.109.112.135 They still seem to be working. At least from AT&T DSL that is.
Here are a few free DNS servers, run by the OpenDNS group: »www.opennic.unrated.net/public_servers.html
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Wow. Did I say you had to use your ISPs DNS servers? Nope. You asked how this is different from the behavior of an application on your machine. It clearly is different. Nothing is stopping us from using other DNS servers. |
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