Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16934981 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:25:31 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:25:31 EDT Re: Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16937942 cob_ : Sadly, you're right.

Money will always trump public interest.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16937942 Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:47:42 EDT Re: Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935370 grandpinaple : And you think this is acceptable? Really what is Karl supposed to do sit down and accept the ass fucking? It's called civic engagement whether it be through the media (such as DSLR a decent tech news website) or actual protest. Either way it is the way legal change in this country has occured for the past two hundred years. It doesn't come as a surprise, it comes as part of a laundry list of grievances that the netizens of this country have. The fact that they are using this to build support for a possible corrupt position is the issue not a question of the fact that they are building support through pr campaigns. I don't support net neutrality, but that isn't the question the question is the masking effect the senate is trying to achieve by looking like they are pro consumer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935370 Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:19:41 EDT Re: Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935242 Zoder : No I'm not surprised. But I'd like to see the other side in the Senate call him out on it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935242 Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:00:54 EDT Re: Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935149 TKJunkMail :
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And now they are doing what politicians also do - building Senate and public support for the decision they have already reached.
Through misinformation and FUD. Stevens knows that a number of Democrats are adamant about keeping his bill from passing before the end of the year and the 109th Congress comes to a close. So he's using every tactic in the book to get the 60 votes he needs to defeat a filibuster. Even if some are dishonest like these survey results.
And this comes as a surprise? That is what politicians do. They do anything that is LEGAL (and sometimes what is barely legal) to win. Politics isn't a game for the squeamish and ethics has very little to do with it. It has always been such, back to the days of the Ancient Romans and Greeks.
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And now they are doing what politicians also do - building Senate and public support for the decision they have already reached.
Through misinformation and FUD. Stevens knows that a number of Democrats are adamant about keeping his bill from passing before the end of the year and the 109th Congress comes to a close. So he's using every tactic in the book to get the 60 votes he needs to defeat a filibuster. Even if some are dishonest like these survey results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935088 Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:36:19 EDT Re: Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935017 RadioDoc : Precisely.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16935017 Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:24:41 EDT Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16934981 TKJunkMail : The Senate committee had months of hearings and the debate period is over. They made their decision. Further debate is wasted effort. And now they are doing what politicians also do - building Senate and public support for the decision they have already reached.
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