bmn? ? ?Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | Basically a party line vote, with cross over canceled out... Shows what happens when one party gathers too much power... What's really needed this fall is for the Congress to find itself evenly devided so that BS legislation like this takes longer to pass and gets more debate and floor time. This is basically just another rubber stamp proposal for executive power, giving the president unlimited power. Problem is that if it were anyone else in the White House, especially a Democrat, they wouldn't be so supportive of giving the president unlimited powers. And by proxy, giving such boosts in power to the president gives a even greater boost in power to the federal governmental and that's interesting too because this is counter to the agenda of the party of the supposedly smaller federal government...
Definitely a great deal of hypocricy on the part of the parties in Washington... No doubt at all...
(Interesting to see Ron Paul voting against this too... Yet another reason to like the guy - he believes in limits to power.)
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Ann Coulter doesn't know jack about science...
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| Should the US just not fight terrorism? Should we trust the good nature of Al-Queda to not do our country harm?
Its amazing how the people whining about this are the same ones whining about Bush not doing enough to stop 9/11. What should he (or Clinton if he was still prez) do to stop terrorism? |
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mmadd29
join:2005-09-27
Sheffield Lake, OH | reply to bmn
What will be interesting is if this law passes the senate, and the democracts win the White House in 2008, how will the Republicans try to cripple the law that they created. |
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bmn? ? ?Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
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said by bchris02:Should the US just not fight terrorism? Should we trust the good nature of Al-Queda to not do our country harm? Its amazing how the people whining about this are the same ones whining about Bush not doing enough to stop 9/11. What should he (or Clinton if he was still prez) do to stop terrorism? Its amazing that supporting limits on presidential power and supporting a stance that keeps the Constitution strong is being weak on fighting al Qaida... Nice strawman there... You have a future in politics because you certainly have a nice way of twisting people's words. Rush Limbaugh or Hannity would be good to consider you as a replacement.
Warrantless wiretapping is an afront to the Constitution and it doesn't fix anything. The system of having 72 hours of wiretaps while a FISA warrant was issued did and had worked for before. This is just the president trying to expand his powers unnecessarily and has little to do with fighting al Qaida.
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"Its amazing how the people whining about this are the same ones whining about Bush not doing enough to stop 9/11. What should he (or Clinton if he was still prez) do to stop terrorism? "
Government reports show that there was no relation between Osama and Saddam. So why was Bush so hell bent on getting rid of Saddam? Trying to finish his daddy's job? Use the America's broken heart to try to relate the two in support of an invasion of Iraq? Why wasn't he so concerned with Osama? Why aren't there 140,000 troops looking for Osama in Afgan and around Pakistan instead of being in Iraq getting blown up? Why did our President put our national debt in the trillions? What are our soliders dieing for?
President Bush made all the wrong choices after 9/11. President Clinton made all the wrong choices to prevent 9/11. |
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Government reports show that there was no relation between Osama and Saddam. So why was Bush so hell bent on getting rid of Saddam? Trying to finish his daddy's job? Use the America's broken heart to try to relate the two in support of an invasion of Iraq? Why wasn't he so concerned with Osama? Why aren't there 140,000 troops looking for Osama in Afgan and around Pakistan instead of being in Iraq getting blown up? Why did our President put our national debt in the trillions? What are our soliders dieing for?
President Bush made all the wrong choices after 9/11. President Clinton made all the wrong choices to prevent 9/11.
If George Bush, SR wouldn't have pissed off the wrong people, we wouldn't need all this wire tapping crap.
The point is the law already allowed them to tap in to somebody they felt was a threat. Now they're just harrassing innocent people. Bush gets upset everytime somebody says something against his beliefs and calls them a terrorist. Gets old after a while. |
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said by bchris02: Should we trust the good nature of Al-Queda to not do our country harm? Of course not. But I certainly don't trust Bush and his partners in crime not to do our country harm either. They've certainly done plenty of that from within. |
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wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to LookmeIvotedforBush
said by LookmeIvotedforBush :
So why was Bush so hell bent on getting rid of Saddam? Why wasn't he so concerned with Osama? Why aren't there 140,000 troops looking for Osama in Afgan and around Pakistan instead of being in Iraq getting blown up? Why did our President put our national debt in the trillions? What are our soliders dieing for?
The real answer is the oil. Osama was an excuse to get the pipe. Saddam was an excuse to protect the pipe.
1 week after a new government was elected in Afghanistan, they get their pipe. Can have pissed off Iraqi's blowing it up.
Go look up the relationships of UniCal to the Caspian region. The story is all there, you just have to get the real one, and believe that someone is capable of doing something like that for money.
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"Should the US just not fight terrorism? Should we trust the good nature of Al-Queda to not do our country harm?"
I suspect that for every "terrorist" fought, we're creating two more. Too bad there is no Sorcerer to come in and eliminate up the mess that Apprentice Bush has made of his terrorism cleanup assignment. |
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