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Miami, FL

How much is attributed to China

What's often overlooked is that most of the piracy takes place in China. I doubt this study looks into what percentage of this perceived loss is due to them.

Congress can pass all of the heavy handed laws that they want but until the Secretary of Commerce and the US Trade Representative gets tough on the Chinese government over this issue, nothing will change.

But go ahead MPAA and lobby Congress to pass more restrictive laws. All you will do is piss off more of your paying customers.

P.S. Does anyone have a link to the study?


Apparently the problem in some foreign countries is that they don't follow the Berne Convention. There are countries, many of them (perhaps the vast majority) in the Far East, that simply don't enforce copyrights. In other words, it's that US Copyright doesn't mean anything "over there". So piracy is not even so much about people breaking their local laws, it's more like that the local laws don't exist - there aren't any laws to break regarding copyright in the first place. Or at least US copyrights aren't recognized as valid in some of these countries. This is probably going to change, because of globalization, political pressure, and so on. China has just recently started enforcing something at this point. So it's not about "busting" people as much as it is about international trade agreements, getting both countries on the same page when it comes to copyrights and enforcing copyrights. Essentially, it's about making US Copyrights (or Canadian copyrights, UK coyprights etc...) valid on a global scale.

And, of course, there is also the "falling behind the times" thing -- I think the way that both music and movie "purchases" are carried out these days perhaps ought to be reconsidered.

How many movies does an average person watch in a month? Obviously, an individual who was very wealthy could purchase 25,000 DVDs and Music CD's, but would be unable to watch or listen to them all in any relatively short period of time.

There is a limitation, based on the fact that we are human beings and that there are only 24 hours in a day, and that we all have limited lifespans and are not immortal -- furthermore, as human beings, we tend to have jobs, chores, things to fix around the house, lawns to mow, flowers to plant, kids to raise, laundry to wash, groceries to buy, dinners to make.... you get the idea.

For movies specifically, I think the idea of "unlimited pay-per-view", say, for instance, from a selection of 50,000+ movies, avaliable "on-demand", for $50 per month or so, for example, might be workable. For those who watch less, perhaps the pay-per-views could be charged individually.

In any case, with both music and movies, we are at a point where the industry needs to recognize the inherent limitations that human beings have which prevent them from from watching an unlimited amount of movies. This is different from p2p, because with p2p, you can have one copy of a movie made available to essentially a very large number of people (and the solution to this is to illegalize leeching, not encourage it). So when you have, say, 80,000 people working together watching movies, they can watch more movies than any one individual can even through the course of an entire lifetime.

Recognizing the time limitiations of any single individual highlights the problem that leeching on p2p creates. What needs to happen is that the databases of movies need to be brought online, and an interface to a set-top box needs to be created. The future is probably in pay-per-view.


In Lisbon we already have a flat rate card for movie goers. It's 13€ (~15 USD) per month and you can watch unimited movies in a few theaters (for comparison, regular ticket prices are about 5€). Not all releases are available in those theaters, but they cover most releases here.

A few friends I know who do have the card will watch around 4-5 movies per month, as opposed to 2-3 before the card was available. See something curious? They're spending about as much now as before this card was available, but they are seeing more movies and they will often recomend those movies they like, so more people go see them.

I don't think the distribution company who makes these cards is complaning about lost sales either, they are still advertising them.