Re: $249.99 U.S in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17010360 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:01:16 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:01:16 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17010360 Fatal Vector : "what a HATER."

What a dufus thing to say. The truth of the fact that it was made under contract to M$ specs is simply the truth. How is that being a "hater"?

Duhhhhhh.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17010360 Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:16:19 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17007208 phattieg :
said by kangabil See Profile :

That is has M$ label is my real worry.

How many patches before it really works.
How many bugs that will ensure it WON'T work
And if I did buyt it (no way Jose') then I'm tied even tighter to the M$ octapus. Buy M$ machine, get M$ permission to play only M$ labelled software and on M$ approved ownloads.

I don't think so thanks.
Well, my experience with Microsoft NON-PC devices is pretty good. Not to mention there is a large community already that is familiar with it. The good thing about this being Microsoft made is the hacks and mods that will become available to make the device better. It's like everything else, only since the device will have a larger group of developers (unlike the Mac, smaller group of idea makers) I think it just might take off...
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Who cares who manufactured it? Point is that it was made to Micro$oft specs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16998860 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:27:13 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16997290 NPGMBR : I have a Dell DJ20 (20gigs). I currently have 1,707 tracks, with 8548MB of space left. I have every song I like on it and will fill it up in the coming years as I include newer songs that will become my favorites.

To be honest I don't see the point of a study that says x amount of people only have x amount of spaced used on their hard disk because over time people will add to it making that whole argument moot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16997290 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:37:24 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996985 SRFireside : I own close to 30 GB of music on my computer. That's not thousands of mp3 downloads either. That's transfers from CDs and records I own. Granted I have a lot of music and I encode the music at 192kbps, but that still means I have more than 10Gb. My 30 GB Zen Touch works fine for me. I haven't maxed out the storage (because I don't need ALL of my music library to go), but it's nice to see the room for expansion.

BTW rock on with your SanDisk player. If you ask me a good mp3 player is the one that meets your needs. You don't need a lot of storage, but want a small and sturdy player? Bingo. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996985 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:31:05 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996255 Pashune : I don't know a soul who has more than 10 gb of music :uhh: Ordering hardware online is a joke; the last few times I've ordered computer hardware from 2 DIFFERENT sites, I've waited almost a month for the packages to arrive. My mail/postal service in my area is pathetic. So, the SanDisk mp3 players were all that was available in my area. Almost every mp3 I have is encoded at 128 kbit, with a select few at 256 kbit and up. Sure, the quality can be somewhat mediocre, but with the stuff I listen to, the music isn't even purchasable. I'm not someone with big $$$ to blow. ^_^ I'd rather spend $250 on a new life. Yeah, call me poor, but that's how my family works. I rarely leave my home, so why would I need an mp3 player with such massive storage? My school doesn't allow an mp3 player in possession on the premises. SanDisk has done what I wanted it to do. =o And for the soul who said iPods were better; I'm not laying a finger on those. My girlfriend has had THREE of them; all which died in one year. And if she has trouble with them; chances are I'm going to as well. This rant need not continue..

You are all welcome to flame me and/or call me biased, stereotypical, or other related terms. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996255 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:16:49 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996235 Pashune : :uhh: Anything past $50 at the moment is out of my profit, if I buy it and it works, and it settles my needs, why complain? Sheesh, I only have 5 gb of music on my computer. That's around..4,000 mp3s. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996235 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:09:20 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996044 kamm :
said by Pashune See Profile :

Agreed. I paid $50 for my Sandisk 512 MB mp3 player. Though expensive and limited in space, I don't go places often; and when I do, it makes for a good time killer :)
I'm sorry but it's hardly a comparison - in fact your player is quite overpriced if we calculate the usual $/MB price, not to mention it has way more feaqture - let alone the fact that 512MB is technically useless for anybody with lot of high-quality (256-320kb MP3 or FLAC) music files like me.

My BIG-BIG-BIG beef with most of the playes is the missing FLAC support - it's ridiculous, I refuse to use ANY DRm'ed shitface codec for my own CDs. I have a PSP w/ 4 gig mini-HDD, it's quite a brick for weekdays when I only need a music-only device, I was eyeballing with Sandisk's 8 gig flash player - even expandable with miniSD - but NO FLAC...! :( Are you listening, Sandisk?
OTOH Cowon's excellent iAudio 6 supports FLAC and everything else I want and even more but it's 4 gig only (and sports a mini-HDD though I don't care about it)...

I want a FLAC-enabled player with AT LEAST 8GB space!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996044 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:56:00 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16996020 xrobertcmx : That is what movies are for.
For the longest time I wouldn't buy an Ipod. I just didn't get it, bought a creative Zen and I was never really happy with it.
Then I finally broke down and grabed a 5th gen Video Ipod and love it...once I bought a skin to protect the screen.
I load my DVD's onto it and watch them in the gym.
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:D

But seriously, installing Linux will remove any silly restrictions, will give access to more codecs, will allow you to customise it with third party software and will satisfy urges to mess with Micro$oft.

It's a win-win situation unless you want to use the DRM stuff, then it's a no-no.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995945 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:19:06 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995323 odreian615 : M$ actully didnt make it Toshiba did ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995323 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:12:44 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995180 Pictor Guy :
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Now $300 for a 30GB video Ipod which has a terrible looking screen, and a GUI made by Apple; I don't deem a good value.
FYI The 30GB iPod has a new(er) screen and is $249 (not $300). ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995180 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:45:57 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995157 Pictor Guy :
said by rachelsfx See Profile :

Smart to play iTunes stuff too which may slowly break iPod's strangehold on MP3 players at their ridiculously high prices for supposed quality.
How will they do that is Apple is still holding fairplay?

And how are MSFTs prices any better?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995157 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:42:54 EDT Re: Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995148 Pictor Guy : You can already install Linux on the iPod]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16995148 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:41:16 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16994919 Ahrenl : If you don't need a 30GB player, then how can you determine if the pricing is correct? Personally I think $250 is a great price if it has a screen that is outstanding. I don't know if it does, but I know my Vision:M which I paid $250 for does.. Since I ride a train for 45mins twice a day, not only do I use it watch a lot of movies, that I'd otherwise never get to see, I also keep 10-15GB's of music on it, which even now, has ALL been listened to thoroughly.. Now $300 for a 30GB video Ipod which has a terrible looking screen, and a GUI made by Apple; I don't deem a good value. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16994919 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:06:49 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16994877 rachelsfx : Automatically imports your existing music, pictures and videos from iTunes and Windows Media Player in a variety of formats

If it plays iTunes music and videos, it looks like M$ is going full steam after Apple. Smart to play iTunes stuff too which may slowly break iPod's strangehold on MP3 players at their ridiculously high prices for supposed quality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16994877 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:00:56 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16994805 rachelsfx : Microsoft announces users need to download 15 patches including one that lets hackers exploit a flaw in its firmware that could allow a takeover of you computer or a network.

Requirements: Vista (works with XP with software with more DRM than anyone thought possible).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16994805 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:50:08 EDT Re: Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16994614 dvd536 :
said by peter_m See Profile :

I'm sure some hacker or group of hackers would love to have it boot LINUX... I would buy one just for that!
What good would that do if you cant use it due to the DRM?
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How many patches before it really works.
How many bugs that will ensure it WON'T work
And if I did buyt it (no way Jose') then I'm tied even tighter to the M$ octapus. Buy M$ machine, get M$ permission to play only M$ labelled software and on M$ approved ownloads.

I don't think so thanks.
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That example is a bit off because you can always sell the other clocks off, but what if you couldn't (like the OP couldn't resell 59.5GB from an iPod)?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993951 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:34:07 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993927 markopoleo : Some tech site did a survey awhile back and noted most people use less than %10 of there storage space on mp3 players. I agree, i have a hard time filling up 512megs with songs I want to listen to. For cutting grass, or doing stuff its plenty of space for me at least.

I also have that 512meg sandisk player, its great no complaints at all with it, does its job, and easy controls. I even dropped it off the roof 3-4 times still ticking. hehe

I wish they could make a wireless mp3 player so you could eliminate the cords, hard to carry stuff at work with cords in way though.

The Zune has potential, have not read much on the service it offers, but again 99 cents a song is WAY to much, and DRM needs to go.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993927 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:30:59 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993822 iotastorm : But...But..but..Its says Micro$oft on it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993822 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:16:22 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993771 Speedy8 : Don't forget the color screen.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993771 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:06:37 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993640 Pictor Guy :
said by Pashune See Profile :

Agreed. I paid $50 for my Sandisk 512 MB mp3 player. Though expensive and limited in space, I don't go places often; and when I do, it makes for a good time killer :)
Wow... yup... compare the price of a 30GB player to a 512MB player. Lets see... that Sandisk cost you $100 per GB. Or to get 30GB from your Sandisk you would need to buy $3,000 worth of them. Even the iPod shuffle is a better deal at $79 for a GB. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993640 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:50:01 EDT Re: $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993588 Pashune : Agreed. I paid $50 for my Sandisk 512 MB mp3 player. Though expensive and limited in space, I don't go places often; and when I do, it makes for a good time killer :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993588 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:42:31 EDT $249.99 U.S http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993569 Anonymous : The correct price is $249.99 U.S.

Way overpriced just like any other MP3 player...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16993569 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:40:36 EDT