I see.... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17031965 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:44:49 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:44:49 EDT Re: Illegal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17037108 anon : > but it's clearly stated in the TOS that
> Verizon can do whatever they want.

and this is *exactly* what's wrong with licenses, terms and agreements you can't negotiate.. corporations shove unreasonable terms and blanket provisions or restrictions down consumers throats, and given the lack of competition in so many areas, it's either agree to these fascist terms or go without. this applies to everything from cell phone or isp agreements to shrinkwrap software licenses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17037108 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:35:11 EDT Re: Illegal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17037089 Randall_Lind : Verizon (GTE at the time) is a crappy company as far as dealing with people is concern.

I remember when I had ISDN only had it for 30 days and every night from 6pm-7am they would turn off my phone so I couldn't use ISDN or even make a phone call.

They had tech come out to check out the issues and then threaten me with $85 a hour charges for what was there problem if you ask me. They blame my computer,modem and even me for the issues. This was by the way my first month.

I had 128mb ISDN with 2 phone lines 64mb each. It took them a couple weeks to fix my ISDN line then they announce to all 128mb ISDN users they were going to charge a $1 an hour if we used the 2nd line.

They only wanted me to use 1 phone line for ISDN even through I was paying for 2 lines for ISDN services. My bill back then was $80 for ISDN. So I cancel and got Roadrunner which was new back then and way faster. Roadrunner was also half the price.

So they charge me $300 for canceling and as far as I know they still want it today and I told them I will pay it when hell freezes.

My friend works for Verizon and he said they now charge $200 to install a phone jack up from $85. He said they are losing so many people to cell phones and voip services they just jack up prices on everything and seem not to care about their customers base.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17037089 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:18:44 EDT Re: I see.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17034031 snipper_cr : No wounder there is a mistake when they were looking for a new definition of unlimited... looks like that dude sees a graphics card, nVidia style or something... dual DVI.
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Maybe they should change it to pay by the gig at maybe $1 a gig over 20 gigs. VZ downloads shouldn't count since you pay for it already.

Do business account users have this issue? Probably not since they are buying tons of usage across lots of users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17032991 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:13:54 EDT Re: I see.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17032057 biteman : This kind of marketing has been going on for years. I worked for a small ISP once years ago said unlimited access BUT in reality it was something like 280 hr's a month. They did not expect people would use more than that. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17032057 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:13:20 EDT Re: Illegal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031975 clorets : edit :eh nm i was thinking of sprint]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031975 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:55:51 EDT I see.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031965 Transmaster : Verizon calling a team of lawyers who will try to convince everybody 5 gig is unlimited.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031965 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:53:50 EDT Re: Illegal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031960 morbo :
but it's clearly stated in the TOS that Verizon can do whatever they want. it's their service. they make the rules. you are just lucky enough to be able to use the limited, neutered service! thank your luck stars! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031960 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:52:43 EDT Re: Illegal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031942 viperpa33s : Maybe Verizon is applying reverse psychology? Charging the customer for violation of the TOS when none applies. I do agree that Verizon should not charge for cancelling if the are the ones that did the cancelling.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031942 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:49:17 EDT Re: Illegal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031917 Nuts : I would think so. Perhaps he should bill verizon $1,750 cancellation fee ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031917 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:45:20 EDT Illegal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17031860 pnh102 :
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Security had inferred, from the amount of bandwidth David had consumed ... cut him off and charged him a $175 early termination fee.

Aside from falsely advertising their service as being unlimited, isn't Verizon also breaking the law by charging the subscriber a cancellation fee even though Verizon did the cancelling?
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