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|  | | Re: Lie, not lay I really feel bad for that guy, I guess people forget that they are human, and humans make mistakes. Wait, people think everyone are robots. I asorry how could I be so dumb. | |
|  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP
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Tallahassee, FL | [OT] OT but, I think we should make the rules conform to the language people speak, no make people speak according to the rules. Just my opinion. There comes a point where a rule has been unused for so long that it needs to be dropped. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: [OT] I guess that depends on how you define "the language that people speak."
I speak the language properly, as do most of the people with whom I work. On the other hand, when I go to some small towns in Indiana, there is rampant use of the so-called word "ain't" and phrases like "she don't". Should those be okay too?
On the other hand, if everyone speaks a variant of hillbilly, I suppose that eventually has to become the norm. | |
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Tallahassee, FL | Re: [OT] said by Goober:I guess that depends on how you define "the language that people speak." I speak the language properly, as do most of the people with whom I work. On the other hand, when I go to some small towns in Indiana, there is rampant use of the so-called word "ain't" and phrases like "she don't". Should those be okay too? On the other hand, if everyone speaks a variant of hillbilly, I suppose that eventually has to become the norm. Well, I think there's a distinct difference between spoken language and professionally written language. When writing professional documents I think it's important to use "proper" English, which I think of more as professional English. The same goes for people who represent a company to the public. In our day-to-day lives the only thing that's important is that the message you have to convey is understood by the recipient. If person A mumbles jiberish to person B and they understand each other then they have properly spoken each other's language, whatever you want to call it.
My personal opinion about language the way I view it.
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| | | | GooberPremium
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kudos:4 | Re: [OT] I overall agree. But, on a daily basis, I find that bad English jars on me and I think less highly of people that can't speak well. And, that's not just me. I read somewhere not too long ago that spoken language skills color peoples' perceptions as to the speaker's intelligence. So, in that sense, is understanding really all that matters? I think it could have farther reaching implications than that.
Regardless, it's all up to the individual. I am constantly working on my kids' grammar, both spoken and written. Others don't and that's their right. | |
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Tallahassee, FL | Re: [OT] said by Goober:I think it could have farther reaching implications than that. In our society (and in most) poor language skills is usually equated with poor education (probably true) and with poor intelligence (probably not true.)
I think judging someone by their language skills is very demeaning. It's also demeaning when someone speaks in accordance with their culture and is made to feel insecure because of their cultural differences.
For many who speak very poorly it can be a source of embarrassment. I think the content (i.e. meaning) of what someone is saying is much more important that how they actually say it. I'd much prefer to hear, "Suh, I's likes yuh vey mut" than, "You, sir, are an ass." The previous shows more intelligence and character.
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| | | | GooberPremium
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kudos:4 | Re: [OT] Hmmm, I'm thinking that laying pipe is pretty important. | |
| | | | | | | Re: [OT] said by Goober:Hmmm, I'm thinking that laying pipe is pretty important. Yes, I agree, especially when performed in conjunction with board nailing or tongue & groove applications
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kudos:4 | Re: [OT] WOOT! | |
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