VOIP Tech Chat → Re: Linksys pap2

Mazlio,
I am going to have to disagree with you on your statements. There are 3 scenarios here:
1. When you make certain changes to the unit the pap2 does reboot itself (see below) This is considered a SOFT reset

PAP2 is updating your configuration. Unit may reset.
You will be redirected to the configuration page in 5 seconds.
If not, you can click HERE to return to the configuration page.

2. Pull power to do a HARD reset

When you power off your PC it is considered a hard or cold boot. When you ctrl-alt-del it is considered a soft or warm boot. They both accomplish the same thing.

3. FACTORY RESET going into the IVR performing the 73738 command. Please don't confuse the task reset with a factory reset.

At NO point under ANY circumstance if you have removed the providers auto-provisioning parameters will it ever return to those defaults unless you do option 3. Options 1 and 2 are both real and are 100% safe if you know what you are doing with this box. I am a LS authorized service provider and provision these devices regularly, including locking and auto-provisioning them. I have also reconfigured many "provider locked" units and those are the types i run personally. I have re-cycled a good variety of different ATA's.

I mean no offense towards you, but we are here to help others, not argue about word choices

What do you mean by "reconfigured many 'provider locked' units"? Do you mean that you have just changed their current settings, or have you actually recustomized their factory defaults?

I meant changed their settings. Unfortunately, the locked units have default provider parameters burned into the eeprom so when you do a factory reset, it brings the providers settings back in to play. This is why they say never to attach an unlocked device to the internet after a factory reset or it will attempt to phone home and in the case of the PAP2 with v3.1.9 and below, if you don't have the GPP_K value and it updates to 3.1.9, you are now locked out of your own unit. I have one of those I still haven't gotten cracked open because of that reason.

i give you a very soft idea what exactly i am doing.
install webserver, or apache.

change linksys as following.

- change the timers of linksys in provisioning
- linksys> provisioning > put profile : »yourcomputerip/script.xml

script.xml - includes
===========

i am doing this useing our software to apply multiroute. but it needs line1,line2 be idle.

if anyone can have idea to do any thing special let me know.

I agree with you that the PAP2 will reboot, but this process can't be considered as a soft reset.Here is the problem you don't understand about the word may. This doesn't imply the unit will perform a reset. If the unit performs a reset, then your unlocked PAP2 (with factory default settings configured to a VoSP with password protected) is doomed!This is not a HARD reset but a power cycle.We are talking about a PAP2, ain't we? If so, then there is no such a ctrl-alt-del function here on a PAP2. BTW, a hard/cold boot is not a reset.Be very careful to make the above statement because option 3 isn't the only highway to hell for a PAP2! If you want the proof on what you said above is not foolproof, then do the following:

• Configure your unlocked Linksys/Vonage (previously locked) PAP2 with provisions disabled and password protected (lock) your PAP2.
• Let it operate as usual with one and/or two VoIP lines from any free VoSP, i.e. FWD (I don't recommend you to configure your PAP2 with a commercial VoIP account).
• On your router, perform some ports forwarding to your PAP2 so outsiders can see the status of your PAP2 in operation.
• Provide your IP address here and invite anyone to factory reset your PAP2 by any means.

I reckon you will be surprised to find out your PAP2 will be performing a factory reset and gets relocked by its factory default settings in no time! You don't have to take my words to find out. There is no such option 2 on a PAP2!You can still be the CEO of Linksys and the fact is a reboot is not a (soft) reset! Who said we are arguing. What I tried to point out is the information you provided here is not accurate but misleading. I could careless if you are a linksys authorized service provider and provision these devices regularly, including locking and auto-provisioning them as well as reconfiguring many "provider locked" units and/or re-cycled a good variety of different ATA's, but you just can't mislead readers by saying a reboot is a soft reset and get a way with it. I know what you mean; however, to some newbies, this will confuse them further.

This is no longer true to some people! I have seen some Linksys/Vonage locked PAP2 got unlocked, attached to the Internet, performed a factory reset (****73738#1), and the owner was still able to access each SIP menu to reconfigure his PAP2 units.

The reverse is also true. You just don't have to take my words for this to find out, just do exactly what I mentioned in my previous posts and hope for the worst to happen to your unlocked Linksys/Vonage (previously locked) PAP2. And, viola ... your unlocked Linksys/Vonage (previously locked) PAP2 will phone home to Vonage to get relocked in no time!

You mean similar to what is mentioned in this post.

Maz,
I agree, we are not arguing, I think we are not necessarily speaking the same language on some of this..(i.e., reboot, reset, ect)
The 3 key items are this:
1. Don't do a factory reset 73738# or kiss it goodbye.
2. Never leave provision enabled without your own TFTP server.
3. Change default Admin access once able to reconfigure.

Other than those three, the unit is safe to reconfigure. I still don't see how the unit is unsafe when facing the internet.
How's that sound?

BM

AFAIK and for the time being, what you said above are correct, but may no longer be true (if you know what I mean -- see my previous post).

Anyway, we have discussed something way off-track.

LOL! your right.. This is why I stick to the unlocked units!
Although I do like the RTP300 very much..

Boogerman,

I re-read your posts and noticed something about what you said regarding the reset and did some thinking as well as consulting with some friends. Up to certain degrees, you are right that a soft reset can be considered as a reboot. For instance, if you look at some of the machine (assembly) codes, i.e. reset (RST), it is used to clear (initialize/reset) the accumulator(s) and/or register(s) of a CPU and jump to certain memory location to prepare for a soft reboot. In this sense, you are right and I apologize for the misunderstanding here.

So, after waiting long period of time, we came to final that linksys pap2 is not designed for multiroute.

- it is excellent device but not for prorfessional uses, its designed for residential servies only.

- In call shop or call center, we can use this device for prepaid service , or we cant force update the linksys, until we power cycle it.

Note: only for this feature linksys pap2 couldnt able to make "Telco product: MAXS or IMIX dialer"