Re: Too much.. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17067384 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:08:33 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:08:33 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17070902 BlitzenZeus : That map is inaccurate, we have various providers in Oregon, including large providers like Verizon, as a matter of fact our location is fios ready, however we don't want them to yank our copper.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17070902 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:33:50 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17069354 ieolus :
said by rachelsfx See Profile :

ieolus - "support the clecs" Is there any left? LOL!
Well, seeing as you don't even know what an RBOC is, it is no surprise that you don't know if there are any CLECs left.

If you looked in any phone book though, you would know that there are CLECs still around. Mostly they cater to small businesses though, not too much to residences.
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said by rachelsfx See Profile :

Embarq is a RBOC, but serves a city here, a city there.

If in Tallahassee, Embarq is your provider.
Embarq is also here in SW Florida too. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17068173 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:34:52 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17068160 n2jtx :
said by N3OGH See Profile :

can't remember who Texaco merged with, and the list goes on and on.
Chevron
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said by Xela19115 See Profile :

The map does not take into account Verizon's ex-GTE properties in the South and West Coast.
Verizon is a unique animal. They are made up of both Bell and Non-Bell assets. They had RBOC properties in the northeast and independent GTE properties scattered throughout the country.

In some states (like Pennsylvania) they had both Bell (Bell Atlantic) and independent (GTE) lines. Now they are all doing business under the Verizon name.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by firephoto See Profile :

Hey, umm, you just wiped verizon off the west coast, the south, and everywhere else except new england. Do you own qwest stock too? :uhh:
The map came from here. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_B···_company If you think it has major errors, feel free to post a modified map.
Well you know but Wikipedia is not exactly a "gospel". It's a volunteer effort and thus will have certain mistakes. The map does not take into account Verizon's ex-GTE properties in the South and West Coast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067856 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:45:43 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067824 Jim Gurd :
said by rachelsfx See Profile :

Embarq is a RBOC
RBOC=Regional Bell Operating Company. Embarq was formerly known as Sprint which was formerly known as United Telecommunications. It was never part of the Bell System.

Embarq is, however, an ILEC like the RBOCs as opposed to a CLEC. ILEC=Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier and CLEC=Competitive Local Exchange Carrier. Maybe that's what you were thinking.
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said by rachelsfx See Profile :

Embarq is a RBOC, but serves a city here, a city there.

If in Tallahassee, Embarq is your provider.
I was unaware Embarq was considered small. Had them here in Tallahassee and in Orlando. Parents in Sopchoppy have it. I don't know where the Sprint and Bellsouth lines begin and end but it seems to me Sprint serves large sections of Florida...but I don't know that for sure.
Either way, a very interesting map.
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said by rachelsfx See Profile :

Maine will soon be "Joe's Telecom."
Your right lol Up here in Maine we are destined to get screwed once again. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067384 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:40:52 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067367 firephoto : Found this for verizon, accuracy unknown but equal to or greater than the wikipedia map. ;)
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said by firephoto See Profile :

Hey, umm, you just wiped verizon off the west coast, the south, and everywhere else except new england. Do you own qwest stock too? :uhh:
The map came from here. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_B···_company If you think it has major errors, feel free to post a modified map.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Here is the map and how it will look when the merger is approved:

If you look at the map and see how Verizon wants out of Maine & Vermont, they are coming in 3rd in this horse race. Even Fios may not save them in the long run.
Hey, umm, you just wiped verizon off the west coast, the south, and everywhere else except new england. Do you own qwest stock too? :uhh:
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If in Tallahassee, Embarq is your provider.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067285 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:26:43 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067233 TKJunkMail :
said by Maxo See Profile :

Why is Embarq not on that map?
There was a footnote on the map. Small non-RBOC companies aren't displayed to keep map simple.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067233 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:19:21 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067200 RichNice : Funny isn't it? I remember the running joke when I used to work at Qwest on the unregulated data side was that we had more barb wire than local customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067200 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:14:01 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067198 Maxo : Why is Embarq not on that map?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067198 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:13:27 EDT Re: Too much.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17067174 Raptor : Anyone else immediately think of Risk when seeing this? :D

Interesting map, as I'm unfamiliar with who provides where.
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said by Corona See Profile :

Were you opposed to the Daimler Chrysler situation?
The paraphrase was to make fun of a previous member of Congress.

I have no particular opposition to this merger. In fact, I know pretty much nothing about it. Just trying to make a funny.

I think I hear crickets.....
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said by N3OGH See Profile :

Too much mergin' goin' on 'round here!

Here is the map and how it will look when the merger is approved:
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If you look at the map and see how Verizon wants out of Maine & Vermont, they are coming in 3rd in this horse race. Even Fios may not save them in the long run.
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Everyone wants to merge with someone else anymore. Time/Warner was almost destroyed by their merger with AOL, Exxon Merged with Mobil, can't remember who Texaco merged with, and the list goes on and on.

I'm all for free markets, but I think government agencies should be pre disposed to denying mergers that approving them. They're almost never good for the customer..
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