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RayW
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reply to phaqu

Re: Semantics

said by phaqu:

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The contractor could hardly speak English
.... like that pisses me off to no end.
Agreed. But the US, for better or for worse, does not have an 'official' language, unlike many of the countries from whence the aforementioned person may have been fleeing from.
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RevMortis
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said by RayW:

But the US, for better or for worse, does not have an 'official' language...
Taken at face value that is a true statement, but it is misleading.
Several states have named an official language.

Most governing institutions in the US have de facto policy to write the official versions of law and statute in English. All publications in other languages are regarded as translations of the official statute (written in English).

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_···d_States

RayW
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Yet in most areas we are still doing bi-lingual government. Just go to say Mexico outside of tourist and foreign enclaves and see how you do insisting on English to get a driver's license or to vote (assuming you changed citizenship).
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Rob
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said by RayW:

Yet in most areas we are still doing bi-lingual government. Just go to say Mexico outside of tourist and foreign enclaves and see how you do insisting on English to get a driver's license or to vote (assuming you changed citizenship).
I live in Florida. Florida has an official language, which is English. Therefore, THEY NEED TO LEARN IT. It should be mandatory with a spelling test (on public TV)! No, but seriously, they need to learn it. Hell I speak English, Italian, and Spanish, and because of that I am able to make a complete sentence!
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RayW
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If that is true for Florida Rob, then more power to your state but some friends of mine from Florida say different - Spanish and English are required in government offices. I did not check when I was there last week, so I do not know myself.
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Rob
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said by RayW:

If that is true for Florida Rob, then more power to your state but some friends of mine from Florida say different - Spanish and English are required in government offices. I did not check when I was there last week, so I do not know myself.
Yea, you may find that employers prefer bilingual employee, but English really is our official language:

Article II, Section 9:

SECTION 9. English is the official language of Florida.--

(a) English is the official language of the State of Florida.

(b) The legislature shall have the power to enforce this section by appropriate legislation.


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phattieg

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said by RayW:

Yet in most areas we are still doing bi-lingual government. Just go to say Mexico outside of tourist and foreign enclaves and see how you do insisting on English to get a driver's license or to vote (assuming you changed citizenship).
Well, I would say English is pretty influential, considering quite a few jobs require knowing it. Did you know, in order to be an airplane pilot, you *MUST* know english. Yeah, it appears when the Wright brothers invented the plane, America standardized commercial air traffic (with air traffic controllers), and as a result, everyone flying has to speak fluent english. In other words, in Brazil, you would speak english to get authorization for landing on their runway. But, this is OT.
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KevNYC
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reply to Rob
Err, have you been to Hialeah lately?



Rob
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said by KevNYC:

Err, have you been to Hialeah lately?
Nope. I hang only on Kendall and of course on FIU's UPC. I don't need to go Hialeah.
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KevNYC
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Well RayW is pretty much right since lots jobs in Hialeah and most of Miami require you to speak spanish. Been to the DMV, Post Office, even out to buy a cell phone? Most of those stores have their signs and pamphlets written Spanish - it's like they don't recognize that there are people who speak english. Heck, you even get dirty looks from people when they can't speak English and you can't speak their language.
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Rob
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said by KevNYC:

Well RayW is pretty much right since lots jobs in Hialeah and most of Miami require you to speak spanish. Been to the DMV, Post Office, even out to buy a cell phone? Most of those stores have their signs and pamphlets written Spanish - it's like they don't recognize that there are people who speak english. Heck, you even get dirty looks from people when they can't speak English and you can't speak their language.
Hmmm.. I know this. I speak Spanish. I don't find a need to travel to Hialeah because everything I need is right here on Kendall.
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KevNYC
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That's great, but the point I was trying to make was that although the State of Florida may have declared an official language they sure aren't following through or enforcing it (not like they could) - so that point was pretty much moot.
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