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bobrk
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Re: Hawaii Earthquake

Yup. Nevada is safely in the middle of the plate, so it doesn't get many earthquakes. It's the edge people that get it.

Mele20
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Hawaii is in the middle of a plate and yet we had a teutonic earthquake so I would think Vegas could also.



bobrk
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Yabbut you've got a volcano. Vegas doesn't.



Mospaw
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Vegas gets them, from what I've heard, but nothing really serious. I haven't felt on here yet. And honestly, I hope I don't.



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It's not so bad really. It gets all the ninnys to move out and then you can buy their houses for cheap.

After Loma Prieta, all the houses in the Marina District in San Francisco were super cheap but now they're all back up again. Would have been a good time to get in. They didn't ALL fall down, after all. You'd be hard pressed to find any damage there now.
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Mele20
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said by bobrk:

Yabbut you've got a volcano. Vegas doesn't.
Yes, but my point was that this earthquake was NOT due to volcanic activity. It was due to a tectonic shifting of the earth's plates even though we are in the middle of a plate.
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the plates move all the time.. over 1,000 earthquakes a year most are under 2.0

It seems the only place on the East coast that gets earthquakes is near the NY/Canadian border.



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The USGS thinks differently. From »earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqi···#summary

Earthquake Summary

The following is a release by the United States Geological Survey, National Earthquake Information Center: A strong earthquake occurred about 10 miles (15 km) north-northwest of Kailua Kona or 65 miles (100 km) west of Hilo, Hawai`i at 11:07 AM MDT, Oct 15, 2006 (7:07 AM HST in Hawaii). The magnitude and location may be revised when additional data and further analysis results are available.

Felt Reports

Numerous people suffered minor injuries, many buildings damaged and landslides blocked roads on Hawai`i. Power outages occurred throughout the Hawaiian Islands. Felt (VII-VIII) in northern and western Hawai`i and (V-VI) in eastern and southern Hawai`i. Also felt (VI) on Maui; (V) on Lana`i, Moloka`i and O`ahu; (IV) on Kaua`i.

Tectonic Summary

The Island of Hawaii is the youngest island in a chain of volcanoes that stretches about 3500 miles across the northern Pacific Ocean. The island chain results from a magma source that originates deep beneath the crust. The ocean crust and lithosphere above the magma source, within the Pacific tectonic plate, move to the northwest with respect to the deep magma source. Over millions of years, new island volcanoes are formed and older volcanoes are carried away from the magma source, erode, and eventually subside beneath sea level.

The 15 October earthquake is probably not directly related to future volcanic eruptions. Non-volcanic Hawaiian earthquakes reflect the long-term accumulation and release of lithospheric stresses, rather than short-term processes associated with the motion of magma before or during an eruption. The long-term stresses consist in part of stresses generated in the crust and mantle by the weight of the volcanic rock that composes the islands. In that sense, most Hawaiian earthquakes that are not directly associated with eruptions are nonetheless broadly related to volcanic activity.

Earthquakes on the volcanic Island of Hawaii are not rare. The largest on record was the magnitude 7.9 1868 earthquake near the south coast which triggered a tsunami that drowned 46 people and which spawned numerous landslides that resulted in 31 deaths. A magnitude 6.9 tremor on August 21, 1951, damaged scores of homes on the Kona coast and triggered numerous damaging landslides.
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Mele20
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Yes, I had already read that. But other experts disagree...so I dunno.


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Today the Honolulu Advertiser posted this on the damages on the Big Island:

Civil Defense releases Big Island damage estimates

Advertiser Staff
Damage estimates on the Big Island

As of 9:30 a.m. Oct. 18. All amounts are preliminary and expected to increase as additional damage reports are filed.

Public buildings (at the moment, county buildings only), $865,000

Schools (public only), $43.5 million

Roads, county, $2.9 million

Roads, state, $4.121 million

Bridges, county, $200,000

Bridges, state, $1.059 million

Kawaihae Harbor, $7 million (including damage to water lines)

Hawaii Electric Light Co., $3-5 million

Hospitals, $250,000

# No. of hospitals with minor damage, 2

# No. of hospitals with major damage, 2

Homes, $650,000 (expected to change)

# No. of homes with minor damage, 50+

# No. of homes with minor damage, 10+

# No. of homes destroyed, 3

Businesses, $11,659,575

# No. of businesses with minor damage, 259

# No. of businesses with major damage, 41

Source: Hawaii County Civil Defense

»the.honoluluadvertiser.com/artic···237.html
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During the last Quake and only one I've ever felt, I was also sitting on a chair. Well, kind of a chair. It was the Northview, California quake, and I had gotten up from a deep sleep to go to the bathroom. The 'chair' didn't go anywhere, but I sure felt as if I did. I felt as if I'd had way too much to drink and I was stone-cold sober. Strangest darned feeling, I can tell you that. We don't have quakes in the desert that I know of even though I am told there is a rather large fault under us.
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said by Mele20:

Yes, I had already read that. But other experts disagree...so I dunno.
»www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15287863/site/newsweek/


NEWSWEEK spoke to Bruce Presgrave, a geophysicist with the United States Geological Survey’s National Earthquake Information Center, in Golden, Colo.

"Were the active volcanoes on the island a direct cause?
We consider this a tectonic event not a volcano-related event. It’s basically caused by the stresses of the island-building process."


»starbulletin.com/2006/10/16/news···y05.html

"While the exact mechanism will take a thorough study of seismic data, a likely trigger was the release of vertical pressure exerted by the weight of the Big Island on the ocean floor, or lithosphere, Poland said.

"The earth's crust is flexing under the Big Island, and that flexing will occasionally cause breakage," he said."


The location of these quakes is very strange. They are
relatively not close any active volcanos. The last two
6.0 + quakes occurred around Kilauea (in 1983 and 1975)
After both earthquakes eruptions proceeded at Mauna Loa
and Kilauea. In this case, I believe it has more to do
with plates shifting due to the immense weight of the
Big Island than any volcanic activity.

Mele20
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Mahalo! I have read so many articles I couldn't recall where I read that...but that is one of the articles I was thinking of when I said it was tectonic...strange...and had nothing to do with volcanic activity. Scary could be an appropriate word too because tectonic earthquakes shouldn't be occuring in the middle of a plate.



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said by Subaru:

it's been 13 years since my last quake I wonder with the Blind Thrust and Lateral-slip I wonder if they all feel the same?

the one I was in was a Blind Thrust
For a moment there I thought you were talking about romance.
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Mele20
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LOL



TDNickell
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reply to Gizy
Wow...It took an earthquake to wake up this forum.

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