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Dis Gruntled
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Re: [Services] Mail Issues/All of Bellsouth.net?

smtp service is either lagged or still down. I am unable to send anything out yet. Perhaps it is the 10 gazillion backed up emails that BS has to send.

davidg
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i have had severe outages all night. my statics were iffy at best. several of my connections were totally down until just a few minutes ago, even teh dial back up.

my mail server sends fine on bsfa. the folks complaining about not being able to run there own should get business accounts. you then set the server smtp to also listen on port 26. this gets around any blocks of you sending mail to your own server from off site.

seems the only problem i still have is a dead dual wan router.

msdd
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Within the last 2 hours, it looks like download speeds have returned to a reasonable range in Memphis. I'm still only getting 1/3 to 1/2 of the 6 Mbps I'm paying for. I rarely get the full 6 Mbps, but it is usually higher than 4 Mbps. Last night, I was measuring download speeds in Kbps not Mbps.

On a positive note, I occasionally use a remote desktop connection from the Internet to a DSL connected computer at home. For several months it has been usable, but much more sluggish than I would expect in drawing and updating the screen. This morning, the remote desktop connection is much more snappy - like I would expect it to be. I don't have any measurements for comparison, but it is more than a subjective improvement. Based on this, I wonder if they have made some changes to the network to reduce latency.

It would be nice if we, as customers, got some kind of explanation for such a major outage. But I'm not holding my breath.
kenrlz
join:2002-04-11
Birmingham, AL

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I am finally back online after only 13 hours.

logic1977
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Its amazing how one outage now makes you the devil.

I had bsfa since 99 and this is the second major outage Ive had to deal with. Overall I'd say thats a good record.
ShadezeRO
join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL

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BS.com
BS.net
Speed.fastaccess.net

all work for me now.
Speeds are looking great.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Download Connection is:: 6363 Kbps about 6.36 Mbps (tested with 5983 kB)
Download Speed is:: 777 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2006/10/17 - 9:15am
Bottom Line:: 111X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 1.32 sec
Tested from a 5983 kB file and took 7.703 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 99.91 % faster than the average for host (bellsouth.net)
D-Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-NHSITPO6K

I guess the majority of problems are fixed. I don't use webmail, so I can't check that, but I can browse to most sites fairly quickly.
Bal3Wolf
join:2002-01-12
Bardstown, KY

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same all working but i never lost dsl or dns or speed just mail.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Download Connection is:: 5986 Kbps about 5.99 Mbps (tested with 5983 kB)
Download Speed is:: 731 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (Server 1)
Test Time:: 2006/10/17 - 9:25am
Bottom Line:: 104X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 1.4 sec
Tested from a 5983 kB file and took 8.188 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 87.71 % faster than the average for host (bellsouth.net)
D-Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-P2Y564NIF
User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; Maxthon; InfoPath.1) [!]

timcuth
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said by logic1977:

Its amazing how one outage now makes you the devil.

I had bsfa since 99 and this is the second major outage Ive had to deal with. Overall I'd say thats a good record.
Please notice: People are not complaining about the outage itself, so much, as about the inability to contact technical support or to get any meaningful status information.

Tim
Bal3Wolf
join:2002-01-12
Bardstown, KY

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well thier is a way to check i just remmberd that.
»consumer.bellsouth.net/system/

heels_fan
1.20.09 The start of Socialism
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said by Bal3Wolf:

well thier is a way to check i just remmberd that.
»consumer.bellsouth.net/system/
But if the system is down (like it was last night) how are you going to check the network status online?
Bal3Wolf
join:2002-01-12
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good point lol but here dsl and dns was working i never thought of trying it lol. Only thing down here was mail.

logic1977
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said by timcuth:

said by logic1977:

Its amazing how one outage now makes you the devil.

I had bsfa since 99 and this is the second major outage Ive had to deal with. Overall I'd say thats a good record.
Please notice: People are not complaining about the outage itself, so much, as about the inability to contact technical support or to get any meaningful status information.

Tim
That unfortunetly isn't something easy to fix. I'd love to wave a wand and make it go away but we won't see that happen anytime soon

Tel
join:2001-10-12
Mauldin, SC

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said by logic1977:

Its amazing how one outage now makes you the devil.

I had bsfa since 99 and this is the second major outage Ive had to deal with. Overall I'd say thats a good record.
I agree. I've had quite a few ISP's and BSFA has gone the longest with no down time. I would doubt very seriously that there is a company out there that hasn't had at least one major crash.

Pashune
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Online ordering isn't doing jack for me... still some errors in need of correcting.
GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA

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said by timcuth:

said by logic1977:

Its amazing how one outage now makes you the devil.

I had bsfa since 99 and this is the second major outage Ive had to deal with. Overall I'd say thats a good record.
Please notice: People are not complaining about the outage itself, so much, as about the inability to contact technical support or to get any meaningful status information.

Tim
What? You didn't get that email notification?
hubcap1324
join:2002-08-01
Statesville, NC

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I also agree wholeheartedly. This day and age people expect things up 100% all the time no exceptions and that is simply too much to expect in the technology world. There is not a single provider out there who has not had a major crash I would bet....

On the other hand, I think the tech support people at Bell should have known more about the outage at the time. They seemed to be clueless and unresponsive.

davidg
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said by hubcap1324:

On the other hand, I think the tech support people at Bell should have known more about the outage at the time. They seemed to be clueless and unresponsive.
my job is the system engineer for a two way radio and paging company. when we have a major problem, all our tech support can tell the customers is we are working on it. the reason is simple, if i take the time to update everyone as to what is going on, then i am delaying fixing the problem. so no updates until the fix is in place. same thing with bell, but on a larger scale. technicians do not like to be interupted when working a major problem, regardless of where they work.

RUQRU
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join:2005-07-30
Central FL

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Try these DNS servers:

»www.opendns.com/

jack808
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is this problem recurring tonight for anyone else? I'm unable to send mail with the mail.bellsouth.net SMTP server again this evening...

heels_fan
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working fine for me

jack808
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oops, yeah, sorry, false alarm - it's working fine for me again now too. itchy posting finger i guess... apologies.

ucandobetter
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I've got to take exception to that. I'm the CIO where I work. I know this can be dealt with far better than BS dealt with it.

Outages happen - but they don't happen for long if you've throught through your high availability strategy and put it into play. BellSouth is enormous, and has tremendous resources. A nine state outage that lasts all night is simply a symptom of crappy technology management.

Even if they got hacked or sandbagged with something that simply couldn't be anticipated, there is absolutely no reason for a business this big to go totally mute during a firefight.

While I agree that technicians do not like to be interrupted when working on a major problem, any company with more than a handful of people will have management who's responsibility in this situation is to communicate status to the rest of the business, and to customers. That very same management team can make it clear to almost any reasonable technician that taking a few minutes off the problem to discuss it, to help meet that need, is fundamental to customer satisfaction. Sometimes that break even yields a faster path to recovery.

You don't have to drop your customer satisfaction agenda on the floor when a technical problem jumps up. People can overcome that impulse. I know - I've made it happen.
ackman
join:2000-10-04
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said by ucandobetter :

I've got to take exception to that. I'm the CIO where I work. I know this can be dealt with far better than BS dealt with it.

Outages happen - but they don't happen for long if you've throught through your high availability strategy and put it into play. BellSouth is enormous, and has tremendous resources. A nine state outage that lasts all night is simply a symptom of crappy technology management.

Even if they got hacked or sandbagged with something that simply couldn't be anticipated, there is absolutely no reason for a business this big to go totally mute during a firefight.

While I agree that technicians do not like to be interrupted when working on a major problem, any company with more than a handful of people will have management who's responsibility in this situation is to communicate status to the rest of the business, and to customers. That very same management team can make it clear to almost any reasonable technician that taking a few minutes off the problem to discuss it, to help meet that need, is fundamental to customer satisfaction. Sometimes that break even yields a faster path to recovery.

You don't have to drop your customer satisfaction agenda on the floor when a technical problem jumps up. People can overcome that impulse. I know - I've made it happen.
One word covers Bellsouth's technical problems:
outsourcing

bsxxx
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because of reliability problem's with bellsouth i switched to Earthlink several months ago.

Bellsouth infrastructure has been declining for several years.

Tech support is the worst even in these days of outsourcing.

They are arrogant.