http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17113188 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:02:45 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:02:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17113188 Cybertoad : Oh good grief! People have to be smarter than this ...

By all means have the ISP log my account, put a truck
outside with wiretaps up the wazoo, and put 2 federal agents
in the same room as me standing over my shoulder and they
still would be totally unable to tell where I connected to,
who I communicated with, or what I actually sent out.

Alright, I am an expert in cryptography and steganography!
Never the less, do you think the terrorists out there
cannot do what I can do if not better?

If you think so, then you are living in a dream world!

The point I am making is that there is absolutely nothing
gained by having ISPs log internet connections and it
will not in any way bring you any closer to stopping
any "terrorists" out there (what a cliche).

I'm sorry but the real agenda here is clearly to monitor
"Joe Blow" American citizen and it has absolutely nothing
to do with terrorism, porn controls, or anything of
the kind. All of that is just red herring statements
to distract people from the blinding obvious truth and
the real actual agenda at hand.

Irony is, and history proves this to be true, if they keep
this crap up, they will more likely create exactly that
which they seek to stop and destroy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17113188 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:28:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17109763 Zaber : Exactly why this type of thing will never work. There is always a way to hide where you are coming from like a out of country VPN or TOR. The first thing that comes to mind is that this will be as effective as gun control, it won't stop "bad" folks from getting guns, only the law abiding citizens. These people need to get a clue already.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he will feed himself for a lifetime]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17109763 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:16:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17109701 jjoshua : For those who want to use the internet for bad things, the only thing that the ISP is going to log is a VPN connection to an offshore server.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17109701 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:59:33 EDT