| Where's our neo-con right-wing whackos now? "Strange how such rabid fans of a free-market aren't interested in allowing market darwinism to play out. "
That, of course, is the crux of the matter. If the megacorps want to compete, then fine, they should compete against the muni's. If the muni's don't need to show a profit, well, corporate darwinism states that the inefficient companies will go bankrupt. And that's a GOOD THING. Muni owned broadband doesn't TAKE ANYTHING from the megacorps, except the shareholders. The plus side of that of course is that the RESIDENTS see the benefits. My town (taunton, ma) is a perfect example of muni broadband/muni power gone RIGHT. I pay 35.00/month for a 10mb symmetrical connection. I pay 40% LESS for my electricity vs the next town over (NSTAR). The benefits to ME are both tangible and noticeable. The benefits to the megacorps? Absolutely none. But then again, the profitability of comcast isn't my concern.
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| govt run buisness I can mostly agree with that editorial. The problem is it is also nonsense to pretend you have a free market when you have governemnt run services. Choose: either we want a free market or we want the government monopoly to run this service. That isnt sarcastic im serious states/counties need to choose 1 and go with it. Claiming in that editorial buisness will ever compete in a free market directly against tax subsidized service is just as looney as what you are criticizing. |
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states/counties need to choose 1 and go with it.
This is a false dilemma argument. There is a significant difference in suggesting voters should have the right to support localized gap-filling broadband measures and advocating national government run telecom. Remember these companies have shown no interest in competing in these regions.
Most of these municipal projects are private-public partnerships funded with private money, anyway. If these densely populated areas ever become profitable to serve, the incumbent will have to enter and compete, or more likely purchase the existing networks. |
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Re: Where's our neo-con right-wing whackos now? If the muni's don't need to show a profit, well, corporate darwinism states that the inefficient companies will go bankrupt. And that's a GOOD THING.
That's just it. By your own statement the Muni is an inefficient firm, but it is artifically protected from the market forces which you acknowledge SHOULD drive it out of business. Whatever they lose, they just make up with taxes!
Muni owned broadband doesn't TAKE ANYTHING from the megacorps, except the shareholders.
And of course all of your neighbors get to subsidize your Internet connection. Do you really not get why a free marketeer would object to this situation? |
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| "That's just it. By your own statement the Muni is an inefficient firm"
Umm, where in the world do you read that a muni is inefficient? My town runs a GREAT and FAST network, it's VERY efficient. Your problem lies in the simple fact that no matter what you are shown, you believe govt=bad,free market=good. I am living proof that your worldview is WRONG. I get faster-better-cheaper internet from my town owned utility. I get CHEAPER electricity from my town owned power plant.
My 'neighbors' aren't subsidizing anything. My Neighbors get exactly the same benefits I get. They get 40% off their electric bills. They get an internet connection that is 10 times better than comcast, at 50% of the price. No siree, my neighbors LOVE what we get. The only thing me and my neighbors DON'T do, is pay our hard earned money to the fat cat megacorp executives, and that, is the best thing of all.
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| I find some truth in that..... Business and Government are similar beasts. In and of themselves they are mindless entities that follow a course, heedless of what lies in their path. The smaller they are, the more opportunity there is for them to be guided by people of character, or the less opportunity for them to do damage if there is no proper guidance.
But as they grow to the level of affecting millions of people, they are less and less likely to be influenced by the good side of capitalism, or power. People get squashed.
Unfortunately, external threats usually wind up precluding the ideal of smaller/better.
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