 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
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kudos:1 | Not much will change... Not much will change over this. The President is still the person who nominates an individual to a position like the FCC board.
The Democrats can promise the world, but can't deliver without a veto proof majority. They can tell you they're going to do everything from "fix" social security, to cure AIDS, to speeding up the harvest and transporting you off this rock, but as long as Bush sits in the white house, he has the power to veto it.
Click....clickclick...Click.
Yep, I think that's Bush's veto pen coming out.....
Americans like divided government. Things will slow down in Washington for a while, and that's probably a good thing...
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Atlanta, GA | said by N3OGH:Americans like divided government. Things will slow down in Washington for a while, and that's probably a good thing... +1
I'm all for divided government. Each party has its problems. I can't stand many of the Repubs in Washington right now, but I also think many of the Dems are truly embarassments to the county and hard to take seriously (like our friend KarlMarx.)
But checks and balances have been sorely lacking these past few years, and I'm glad we're getting back to that. I actually hope the Dems DON'T win the Sentate (though it's looking like they may) just to keep Congress divided.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Alpine:Each party has its problems. I can't stand many of the Repubs in Washington right now ... As if there were 2. After watching 6 years of the Republicans in charge, all we have to show for our work in getting these pansies elected is a bigger government, more entitlements, insane budget deficits. We've now see people who promise even bigger government, more entitlements and far more budget deficits swept into power. In a way, nothing has really changed.
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N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
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kudos:1 | said by pnh102:said by Alpine:Each party has its problems. I can't stand many of the Repubs in Washington right now ... As if there were 2. After watching 6 years of the Republicans in charge, all we have to show for our work in getting these pansies elected is a bigger government, more entitlements, insane budget deficits. Agreed. IMHO, if the Republicans had stuck to the ideas that brought them to power in 1994, this most likely wouldn't have happened.
The problem is power corrupts, and as people spend more time in power, regardless of their affiliation, or moral fortitude, they become more and more corrupt.
More and more folks who would describe themselves as Republicans are describing themselves as Conservatives, as many of the Republicans who have ascended to the Congress in the past couple of elections sure has heck aren't Conservatives as I see 'em.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by N3OGH:Agreed. IMHO, if the Republicans had stuck to the ideas that brought them to power in 1994, this most likely wouldn't have happened. The problem is power corrupts, and as people spend more time in power, regardless of their affiliation, or moral fortitude, they become more and more corrupt. The answer to this is simple. Term Limits for Congress. We've needed them for a long time. Term Limits would spare the rest of the country from the likes of Ted Stevens, Ted Kennedy and other big government senators. They would also force candidates to actually compete for these seats as well.
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Really? In the last 6 years I see a country that hasnt been attacked since 9/11, the NYSE at records highs, lower taxes, more money in my paycheck, low interest rates and small business's expanding and growing. I guess your the glass is half empty type of guy. |
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kudos:1 | reply to pnh102
Agree with term limits. |
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to dispatcher21
said by dispatcher21:Really? In the last 6 years I see a country that hasnt been attacked since 9/11, the NYSE at records highs, lower taxes, more money in my paycheck, low interest rates and small business's expanding and growing. What you say is true, but you cannot deny what I have said either. In the long term, all of this government expansion is going to screw us. Maybe not as bad as terrorism, but we will be owing everyone all over all sorts of money, and tax rates will have no option but to rise to cover the ever increasing costs of these government programs.
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said by dispatcher21:Really? In the last 6 years I see a country that hasnt been attacked since 9/11, the NYSE at records highs, lower taxes, more money in my paycheck, low interest rates and small business's expanding and growing... We have also seen:
bin laden still at large
cargo not inspected
borders not secure
2800 soldiers dead (and counting)
civil war in Iraq
Taliban resurgence in Afghanistan
Congressmen buggering pages
Congressmen going to jail
doubling of gas prices
several times growth in the national debt
Katrina
whew, I'm tired - is that enough?
oops, forgot - bursting of the housing bubble, a nukular Iran and N.Korea conducting the test of a nukular device |
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yes, and my anti-tiger cream has also been working. i've been applying it since 9/11 and it's working! i haven't been attacked!
the NYSE will be falling/crashing shortly...just look at the ongoing housing market crash. those two follow each other. |
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N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
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kudos:1 | reply to dispatcher21
said by dispatcher21:Really? In the last 6 years I see a country that hasnt been attacked since 9/11, the NYSE at records highs, lower taxes, more money in my paycheck, low interest rates and small business's expanding and growing. I guess your the glass is half empty type of guy. I agree with all those things, but stuff like expanded Medicare drug benefits right before the 2004 election and a failure to take a genuine stand on illegal immigration left a sour taste in my mouth. Not that it changed my vote, but I bet it let the air out of a lot of people's tires.
The expanded Medicare drug benefit was pure pandering, and it's costing a fortune. Just because someone gets old, they deserve a free ride? How about a means test. Shit, right now you and I could be paying for Ross Perot's prescription drugs just because he's "old". That's bullshit.
Why the hell are there still Mexicans pouring across the border? The Hispanic vote? More pandering. There's no reason they can't close that down and start getting the illegals outa here. I have no problem with immigrants and guest workers, but a lot the people coming across the border are criminals in Mexico. So, when they come here, they are still criminals. It's not fair to the people that apply for a visa, wait in line, and do it the right way.
I could go on, the Delay scandal (this one is still up in the air), the Mark Foley scandal (yeah, I believe no one knew about that a year ago).
If this is what the Republicans stand for, I'll stand as a Conservative first. I'm voting the person, not the party.
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kudos:1 | reply to nasadude
said by nasadude:said by dispatcher21:Really? In the last 6 years I see a country that hasnt been attacked since 9/11, the NYSE at records highs, lower taxes, more money in my paycheck, low interest rates and small business's expanding and growing... We have also seen: bin laden still at large cargo not inspected borders not secure 2800 soldiers dead (and counting) civil war in Iraq Taliban resurgence in Afghanistan Congressmen buggering pages Congressmen going to jail doubling of gas prices several times growth in the national debt Katrina whew, I'm tired - is that enough? oops, forgot - bursting of the housing bubble, a nukular Iran and N.Korea conducting the test of a nukular device Gotta call you on a few of those.
1: The cargo issue. It would be an absolute impossibility to inspect every piece of cargo that comes in to this country. The cost would be nothing short of astronomical, and it would grind commerce to a screeching halt. I used to be a Customs Inspector (for a brief period of time, I hated it anyway) and there is no way on God's green earth anyone can promise you every piece of cargo coming into this country. Any politician, pundit, or person who promises you otherwise is BULLSHITTING you, plain and simple.
2: The bursting of the housing bubble. Well, I gotta tell you, for a "bubble" to burst it has to inflate first. So, are rising home values the fault of Congress and the President? You can't have it both ways. My house was worth $200K in 1999, now it's worth $350K, and all I did was live in it.
3: The crap with Korea's been going on for years now. If I remember, a certain past administration gave them the reactors to make the fissable material to make that bomb. If I remember correctly, the North Koreans promised us not to do that. So, why should we negotiate with that maniac, when we know his word is BS. China will keep North Korea and their tiny little bomb in check, since China doesn't want all those starving North Koreans teeming across the border into China.
I don't call you on the others, as I see them as legitimate gripes, especially the out of control spending and buggering of Pages...
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Duluth, GA | reply to pnh102
LMAO! Term limits? Hello, have you READ the so-called 'Contract with America'? It called for Term limits for every one of those elected in its coattails.
How many Republicans from the class of '94 actually adhered to it? I found only 3. Good job!
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said by N3OGH:2: The bursting of the housing bubble. Well, I gotta tell you, for a "bubble" to burst it has to inflate first. So, are rising home values the fault of Congress and the President? You can't have it both ways. My house was worth $200K in 1999, now it's worth $350K, and all I did was live in it. uh, your house magically gaining $150k in value over 7 years isn't a bubble? normal appreciation is a few percentage points a year. where's that other $100k from?
not sure what area you live in, but expect your house's "worth" or value to drop. sell while you can...if it's not too late. |
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to ieolus
said by ieolus:Hello, have you READ the so-called 'Contract with America'? It called for Term limits for every one of those elected in its coattails. Yup, I distinctly do remember that.
said by ieolus:How many Republicans from the class of '94 actually adhered to it? I found only 3. Good job! Exactly my point.
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Bin Laden-Kerry wouldnt have caught him either. And if Clinton killed him on the many occasion he had a chance to, it wouldnt be a problem.
Borders not secure-Thank the democrats for this one. They somehow insist that labeling people illegal aliens and booting them back to their country of origin is violating some right and that the illegals here now should be made citizens...wrong.
Soldiers dead in Iraq-Its a war.
Civil war in Iraq-We had a civil war back in the day and look what it did for us, its not always a bad thing.
Taliban-They will again be crushed, as long as democrats dont loose their backbone and back down.
Congressman buggering pages-What the hell is buggering?The page was an adult and no wrong doing was ever proven, whats your point?
Congressman going to jail-Has happened to democrats before and will happen to both again in the future, again, whats your point.
Doubling of gas prices-?? How is this the fault of the Republican party? Gas prices went up all over the world, your telling me that the republican party has the power to influence gas prices around the world? No, that would be the oil cartel manipulating prices around the world.
Katrina-That was a problem with the inept local government in that state. They did not plan well and did not ask for assistance in time. Blame them. Also blame the retards for not leaving when told to do so. What, they couldnt leave? Again, blame the local government for leaving buses parked in the lots and getting them flooded.
N Korea-Blame Clinton for that one. He gave them the equipment to do what they are doing now. Sorry for long post |
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I agree with you. Nothing will change. Both parties are now so corporately corrupt that at the foundation, both parties are essentially the same.
The middle and lower class will still get screwed, and corporations/politicians will further erode citizens rights, and steal their tax money to further line their greedy pockets.
Ain't American democracy great? |
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Marietta, GA | reply to dispatcher21
On the borders not being secure, what exactly have any of them (Dems and Republicans) done for border security? Build a fence?? Give me a freakin break. I guess neither party has read the news reports of tunnels being used to smuggle people/drugs.
I believe that both parties are spineless when it comes to that...as well as most other "real" issues that Americans care about. |
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kudos:1 | reply to morbo
That's not the point.
For there to even be a bubble, the value of real estate had to increase, as opposed to decreasing. Now, he's gonna bitch about the bubble bursting, and blame it on Bush and the Republicans.
So, my point is.
1: Who's really responsible for the increase in the value of real estate (good for some, bad for others)?
2:Who's responsible for the bubble bursting?
How can Bush and the Republicans be responsible for both?
In reality, this is what happened.
After the economic turmoil that followed the bursting of the tech bubble & 9/11, interest rates had to be lowered to historic lows to stimulate the economy. This made it possible for people to purchase houses they couldn't otherwise afford. A lot of people purchased properties as speculative investments, and not as homes. A lot of those properties were purchased with adjustable rate mortgages. As the economy improved, interest rates had to rise. As interest rates rose, a lot of these people could no long afford the home or property they purchased using an ARM and had to either re finance or sell. A lot of people had to sell, leaving a glut of properties on the market.
Less demand + More supply = Lowering prices.
The politicians really have very little to do with it. It's simply the business cycle doing what it does naturally.
We see it over and over again. In the stock market, the price of commodities like oil, gas, or FOJC (A favorite of Duke & Duke) and real estate. The guy who's in power during the up side of the cycle is the lucky guy, and the guy in power on the slide is usually labeled the slug.
Since the present people in power are the ones that were here when it happened, I guess they get both. Everyone was bragging about how much more their house was worth, now they're all crying it's Bush's fault.
Can't have it both ways. Something in the water does not compute. You can't label someone the villain and the hero all in one.
This is why we should be teaching basic economics in high school...
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kudos:1 | reply to pnh102
While I agree term limits are needed, I believe there is a larger need for "actual" campaign finances reform. Personally, I'd like to see all campaign monies go into a large fund, which is then split by the candidates. It would be illegal to take money directly from any organization or individual. Then, the American people can see who runs the best campaign without it turning into a dash to see who can raise the most money the fastest. Of course, this will never happen.
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