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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/525402"><b>Combat Chuck</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  inurenegade <A HREF="/useremail/u/1365465"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>they designed the ps3 with lots of room to go unlike the 360 which was rushed out of production early :P</DIV>Just so you know, the extra care that sony put in causing delays was nothing more than manufacturing problems, be it blue diode shortages or incredibly low yields on cell processors.<br><SMALL>--<br>Early to rise, early to bed;<BR>Makes a man healthy but socially dead.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1202420"><b>GhostDoggy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  inurenegade <A HREF="/useremail/u/1365465"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>they designed the ps3 with lots of room to go unlike the 360 which was rushed out of production early :P so waht if 360 got out first i bet the ps3 will destroy 360 in the long run :) and sure u dont need anything over 9 gigs for a game right now but what about 1080p games in the long run and stuff? think about the size of maps and quests and crap on ps3 </DIV>They had to do that because Sony's life-cycle is a half-decade.  :o<br><br>What good would it do them to put something out that is 'dated' in three years unless they planned on replacing in three? Just imagine all those folks that think their 'top of the line' is 'current' in 3-5 years. Just a thought.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:59:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1365465"><b>inurenegade</b></A> : they designed the ps3 with lots of room to go unlike the 360 which was rushed out of production early :P so waht if 360 got out first i bet the ps3 will destroy 360 in the long run :) and sure u dont need anything over 9 gigs for a game right now but what about 1080p games in the long run and stuff? think about the size of maps and quests and crap on ps3]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:05:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1185141"><b>DiscardedVet</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  BF69 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1048555"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>By the way this isn't a decade ago with WebTV and SDTVs. With a HDTV you get the same resolution as computer monitor.<br> </DIV> <br>My referrence is in the concept of a browser on a TV, which is decade old technology, yet being hyped as such an awesome concept by PS3 advocates. What's the first thing someone says about PS3 after the tout of Blueray? Internet. Oh boy.<br><br>Not much graphics, outside of clear font, needed for ....... surfing the web.<br><br>DV<br><SMALL>--<br>Bush is the Prez....Think Patriot Act II....This outspoken dissident....In jail I'll be soon.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:18:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1048555"><b>BF69</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  DiscardedVet <A HREF="/useremail/u/1185141"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>No try $600 for a Bluray player and gaming system! And you can surf the net with it so its even sort of a computer. $600 sounds like a good deal to me.<br><br>Please show me where you can buy a Bluray player for under $600?<br> </DIV> <br>I don't care if it's Bluray, Blackray, or even Pinkray, it's a game - period.<br><br>So it surfs the net ... pphhfftt - oh my god, a browser on my TV !!! That was over a decade ago.<br><br>So, you have a $600 web surfing game ..... WHOOHOO !!!<br><br>Jeez<br>DV<br> </DIV>Well then you can make the case that anyone that has a computer that buys a game system of any type is a moron. Why not use your computer? For the price of a core version of the 360 you can buy a hell of a graphics card. And it should be able to hook up to your HDTV.<br><br>By the way this isn't a decade ago with WebTV and SDTVs. With a HDTV you get the same resolution as computer monitor. Most people use 800X600 or 1024X768 resolution. Most 720P HDTVs I see are 1366X768 some are 1280X720. The 1080 HDTVs are even higher resolution.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:38:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1048555"><b>BF69</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Dreven <A HREF="/useremail/u/1410238"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>P.S. By 2008 the Blue-Ray format will be dead or dying too. <br> </DIV>Fact is you don't know WHICH one will win so you can make the case that Microsoft offering a HD-DVD drive add-on ONLY to it's 360 owners is also putting them in the same boat. What if they buy the HD-DVD add-on for $200 and HD-DVD loses out? $200 out the window. By the way expalin why a HD-DVD add-on can only cost $200 but and actual HD-DVD player is $500?<br><br>It's almost 2007 and the next gen DVD wars haven't even really begun. The VAST majority of people still use good old SDTVs. And those that do have HDTVs are still quite sastisfied with good old DVDs. It will be at least 8 years before a "winner" of the next gen DVD wars is determined and by then the XBOX 720 and PS4 will be out. So it won't matter who "won" to PS3 or 360 owners.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:29:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1048555"><b>BF69</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  NOCMan <A HREF="/useremail/u/1085749"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>Xbox 360 now does 1080p<br><br>It has a 200 dollar hddvd addon.<br><br></DIV>Ok for $400 20GB XBOX 360 +$200 HD-DVD +$100 Wi-fi =$700 vs $600 for 60 PS2 that comes with Blu-ray and built in wi-fi and HDMI. Yes I know the 360 will eventualy have an HDMI adapter and that's my point, something else XBOX 360 owners will have to spend money on to get a machine equal to a PS3. What's that going to cost $50? <br><br>Not to mention if you want to have portable storage for game saves you have to spend $40 for a 64 MB memory card for the 360 where for the same price I can get a USB memory stick that has 512 MB of storage to use for the PS3. Also if I want a larger HDD I can use any notebook HDD on a PS3. For the 360 you have to use the ones MS makes for them which of course will be more expensive and that's WHENEVER they finally decide to make them.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:19:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/525402"><b>Combat Chuck</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  cbrigante2 <A HREF="/useremail/u/725467"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>An interesting quote from one of the linked sites from an American observer of the launch crowd:</DIV>here's the whole thing:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/foreigners-and-fights-ps3-jpn-launchs-dark-side-214130.php" >kotaku.com/gaming/top/foreigners&middot;&middot;&middot;4130.php</A><br><SMALL>--<br>Early to rise, early to bed;<BR>Makes a man healthy but socially dead.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:29:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/725467"><b>cbrigante2</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Jonbo298 <A HREF="/useremail/u/930918"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR>It sold fast in japan because there was only 80,000 to go around ;)<br> </DIV>If there were 180,000 they would be gone too!<br> </DIV>An interesting quote from one of the linked sites from an American observer of the launch crowd:<br><br>"Hardcore gamers are not here waiting in line overnight, buying a first-run PS3, and running home to play some good old next-gen gaming. Rather, opportunistic Japanese businessmen have the largest presence, hiring poor Chinese men and women to wait in line for a PS3, one which will later be sold on web auctions to wealthy gamers around the world for exorbitant amounts of money."<br><br>These systems selling out fast on launch (for 360 and Wii as well) has little to do with gaming.  Hell, the first buyer didn't even buy a game to go with the PS3.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:30:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/290667"><b>SRFireside</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by MNBatman :</SMALL><BR><BR>Half the movie Industry supports Blue ray, the other half support HD-DVD, meaning Id have to buy two players to watch the next gen DVD's</DIV>Sorry Taylor. Most of the movie industry is behind Blu-Ray. Only two studios are backing HD-DVD exclusively. But go ahead and get the Wii if you plan on getting back to console gaming. It looks like it will be a hoot to play. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:55:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Soon UMD will be gone too.....]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:01:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/525402"><b>Combat Chuck</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>I am talking about First party games of course.<br> </DIV>You better hope and pray that you can find developers willing to develop for the platform.  Consider:<br><br>- Developers are looking to shave costs while reaching the widest audience possible.<br>- Programming specifically for cell is a PITA<br>- Porting between PS3 and XB360 is relatively easy because their core architectures are basically the same tho straight ports won't use the cells.<br>- Straight ports are cheap and allow you to reach a larger audience.<br><br>Looking at the reality of the game industry at this point, I don't think your going to see many exclusives.  What owners of PS3s and XB360s are looking at is a long series of titles developed to be cross platform; and considering that the only thing that makes cell better are the cells, if a game doesn't use them the PS3 is nothing but a gimped XB360.  PS3 might win on paper but those numbers don't look like they're going to survive the jump to reality which puts it up there with such memorable sony failures as betamax, memorystick, minidisk, and CRT based HDTV's.<br><br>As for me, I'll stick to PC and possibly Wii.<br><SMALL>--<br>Early to rise, early to bed;<BR>Makes a man healthy but socially dead.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:16:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/525402"><b>Combat Chuck</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Xbox fan boys better get used to it :) PS3 is the new king of gaming!!!<br> </DIV>Speaking of Fanboy's...<br><SMALL>--<br>Early to rise, early to bed;<BR>Makes a man healthy but socially dead.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:00:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1185141"><b>DiscardedVet</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>No try $600 for a Bluray player and gaming system! And you can surf the net with it so its even sort of a computer. $600 sounds like a good deal to me.<br><br>Please show me where you can buy a Bluray player for under $600?<br> </DIV> <br>I don't care if it's Bluray, Blackray, or even Pinkray, it's a game - period.<br><br>So it surfs the net ... pphhfftt - oh my god, a browser on my TV !!! That was over a decade ago.<br><br>So, you have a $600 web surfing game ..... WHOOHOO !!!<br><br>Jeez<br>DV<br><SMALL>--<br>Bush is the Prez....Think Patriot Act II....This outspoken dissident....In jail I'll be soon.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:50:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/983147"><b>bageloid</b></A> : No, some games have the option of installing on the hard drive, the game isnt copied. It also doesnt boost preformance, it only speeds up load times making up for the lackluster preformance of a 2x blu ray drive.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:48:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/400265"><b>Subaru</b></A> : As a person who sends videos out to be broadcast Beta is still very much alive. Cant beat Beta on picture quality and low wear and tear.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:10:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1226337"><b>hayabusa3303</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Dreven <A HREF="/useremail/u/1410238"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR>  SONY has a long history of pushing media formats that die - about 10 different ones now (DAT, BETA-MAX, etc etc).<br> </DIV>Dat and Beta-max is for PRO not the everyday person. <br><br>Beta is still used today in TV stations.   :huh:]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:01:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1324381"><b>FrostyMelon</b></A> : PS3...uhhh...no. Sony lost the battle this go around.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:55:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1085749"><b>NOCMan</b></A> : There are more than 8 million Xbox 360's in circulation.<br><br>Xbox 360 now does 1080p<br><br>It has a 200 dollar hddvd addon.<br><br>I really dont get the my gaming rig is better than yours crap anyways.  This is very little difference between the x360 and the ps3 anyways when it comes down to the actual game.  If you took any game that was published for both consoles you could put the side by side and they would both look alike.<br><br>The features are not a selling point anywyas.  I dont believe in consolidating everything down to one machine.  So your kids want to play the ps3 and you want to play a blu-ray movie.  Conflict!<br><br>In the end you would be better off getting seperate systems without all the garbage.  The games are both shipping in dvd format not blu-ray.<br><br>Plus when you compare movie players HD-Dvd wins.  Both formats are relatively expensive but HD-DVD's you get a HD side to the disk and the SD side to the disk.  So you can still play it in the car dvd player, the bedroom, or your portable dvd player.  You can still rip it down for your ipod or any other portable media player.  Lets not forget the actual media on blu-ray exists right beneath the surface so any scratches will ruin the disc's.  Is it any wonder that movie rentals and places like bestbuy are now selling insurance to replace your disc if it gets scratched.  Better pay up because remember a rental place does not consider replacing the disk at cost the fair value.  They try to charge 100 dollars in the lost value of the disk not rented while a replacement is being received.<br><br>So no PS3 is not a selling point at all just becuase it's intergrated with blu-ray.<br><br>Also it's the cost.  That's about 2 days work for me to pay for it.  I cant imagine what pain it would put on parents who made minimum wage.  When it comes down to it Junior is going to get a Xbox 360 or even the Wii.<br><br>Sony thinks they're going to get a advantage selling the PS3 with blu-ray to get more players out there.  Once the enthusaists pick up the systems I believe that sells will drop through the floor.  The xbox 360 an the Wii will be readily available at a pricepoint that most can swallow.  With players exceeding 800 dollars and the cost of this system compared to a upconverting hd-dvd player that costs 300 dollars out there it's a no brainer for those on a budget.<br><br>If this flops this will be a serious blow to Sony after the battery recall fiasco.  They either take the blu-ray out and make it chaper so it sells and they make some money or it's most likey they'll go way into the red on this spruce goose and investors will flee them like rats on a sinking ship.<br><SMALL>--<br>FIOS chat &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.fioschat.com" >www.fioschat.com</A>   MacChatter &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.macchatter.com" >www.macchatter.com</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:54:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : $600.00 for a Blue-ray player.... No thanks.  Why would I want to support the next VHS/Beta war.  Half the movie Industry supports Blue ray, the other half support HD-DVD, meaning Id have to buy two players to watch the next gen DVD's<br><br>Sorry to say I will never go back to a console gaming system again. I play PC games, and can do a lot more with the PC games then a console can do.<br><br>If I were to buy anything, its going to be the Nintendo Wii. They know how to price their product, and they are opening the back catalog of NES, SNEs, N64 games to be played from the internet.  I hope PS3 becomes the real looser]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:46:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1255147"><b>Sgtslaughtr</b></A> : The PC is the king of gaming, look at these new consoles...they aren't consoles anymore. "Can't beat'em.....then join'em." The PC is still a PC.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><b>imrf</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Dreven <A HREF="/useremail/u/1410238"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>Also, I'll take Microsofts Live! over a 3rd party multiplayer solution any day.</DIV>I won't. The company that made the game will focus on the game play online, instead of letting MS screw with it.<br><br><div class="bquote">You can't rent Blue-Ray movies</DIV>Yes you can.<br><br><div class="bquote"> and who would want to buy one for $35. </DIV>The same thing was said when DVDs came out. They went for the same price back then. BTW, all the BR discs that I've see sit around $29.99 with many at $24.99.<br><br><div class="bquote">  What games are going to need more that a full DVD-9 worth of space (nothing...). </DIV>Apparently you haven't read what some of the developers have said about the PS3 games then. All of them are over 9GB as of right now.<br><br><div class="bquote">  SONY has a long history of pushing media formats that die - about 10 different ones now (DAT, BETA-MAX, etc etc). </DIV>So? What's your point. Sony has also had a long history in dominating the gaming industry and knows what gamers want. MS is trying to get into it and really aren't doing well at it, IMO. Besides, the two formats you listed are huge in the professional industry.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/459030"><b>CPM</b></A> : No try $600 for a BlueRay player and gaming system! And you can surf the net with it so its even sort of a computer. $600 sounds like a good deal to me.<br><br>Hm. How many computers do you have to own, to surf the net?<br><br>Call, be stupid but usually one would do.<br><SMALL>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.forbroadwaytickets.com" >www.forbroadwaytickets.com</A> - &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.Broadwayman.com" >www.Broadwayman.com</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:58:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1202420"><b>GhostDoggy</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  barnett25 <A HREF="/useremail/u/940444"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I don't have an HD TV and wont have one for several years. What reason is there for me to get the PS3? </DIV>There isn't. There, I just saved you a bunch of time, consideration, and money.  :D The same goes for the 360. Just get the Wii and you should be set for when you enter the 21st Century.  :o]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:54:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/940444"><b>barnett25</b></A> : I don't have an HD TV and wont have one for several years. What reason is there for me to get the PS3?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:51:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1410238"><b>Dreven</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3! Xbox 360 will not even be in the same league as PS3! Trust me on this :)<br><br>I am talking about First party games of course.<br> </DIV>Ummm...  Are you smoking crack?  I seriously doubt it.  At best the PS3 will have a slight edge over the 360.  Hardware wise, the differences about equal out.  And, how long will it be before the PS3 has a polished game of the same quality as Gears Of War.<br><br>Also, I'll take Microsofts Live! over a 3rd party multiplayer solution any day.<br><br>P.S. By 2008 the Blue-Ray format will be dead or dying too.  Anyone that buys a PS3 is going to be spending $200-300 extra for a Blue-Ray drive.  You can't rent Blue-Ray movies and who would want to buy one for $35.   What games are going to need more that a full DVD-9 worth of space (nothing...).   SONY has a long history of pushing media formats that die - about 10 different ones now (DAT, BETA-MAX, etc etc).]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:50:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1378881"><b>TK Junk Mail</b></A> :  <div class="bquote">You can copy PS3 games to the hard drive so they can load up much faster :) And sorry to tell you but you are going to have a real long wait to be able to buy the PS3 for under even $300<br> </DIV>Really?  I have not come across any article that mentions copying/running the game from the HD, and I'm suprised the GI article did not mention this.  If true, that is a sweet option.  Can the 360 do this too?<br><br>Lol too about the $300.  You are probably right about the wait.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:39:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/848426"><b>rideboarder</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>And sorry to tell you but you are going to have a real long wait to be bale to buy the PS3 for under even $300<br> </DIV>You're probably right, considering the reliability of Sony and the playstation, people will have to keep buying a new one once a year, which will keep demand up...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><b>gate1975mlm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  TK Junk Mail <A HREF="/useremail/u/1378881"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</SMALL><BR><BR>I am definitely going to pick up a PS3 (so I can play MGS 4: Guns of the Patriots), but in about 2-3 years when I can pick up the system for a couple hundred bucks, lol.<br><br>There is no way in hell I am going to pay over $3-400 for any system.  I finally picked up PS2 and xbox when they were around $150 and I am enjoying the hell out of the games I can now pick up for 10-20 bucks.  I just don't get the benefit of full servers on some games.<br><br>IMO Sony screwed up adding Blu-Ray to all systems.  It should have been an external option.  It drove the price way too high, and I don't think many will see the Blu-Ray as a deal maker to buy the system.  Who knows though, that might change in a couple years.<br><br>I also read in Game Informer on a preview of a game (I can't remember which one.  I will quote the whole reference if called out) that the load times will be longer for PS3 as opposed to the 360 because of the Blu-Ray drive.  That's definitely not a selling point either.<br> </DIV>You can copy PS3 games to the hard drive so they can load up much faster :) And sorry to tell you but you are going to have a real long wait to be able to buy the PS3 for under even $300]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:17:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><b>gate1975mlm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  rideboarder <A HREF="/useremail/u/848426"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR>By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3!  </DIV>and by the end of 2008 there will be a new Xbox out that will spank the PS3.<br> </DIV>Maybe but then PS4 will be out a little after that LOL]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1378881"><b>TK Junk Mail</b></A> : I am definitely going to pick up a PS3 (so I can play MGS 4: Guns of the Patriots), but in about 2-3 years when I can pick up the system for a couple hundred bucks, lol.<br><br>There is no way in hell I am going to pay over $3-400 for any system.  I finally picked up PS2 and xbox when they were around $150 and I am enjoying the hell out of the games I can now pick up for 10-20 bucks.  I just don't get the benefit of full servers on some games.<br><br>IMO Sony screwed up adding Blu-Ray to all systems.  It should have been an external option.  It drove the price way too high, and I don't think many will see the Blu-Ray as a deal maker to buy the system.  Who knows though, that might change in a couple years.<br><br>I also read in Game Informer on a preview of a game (I can't remember which one.  I will quote the whole reference if called out) that the load times will be longer for PS3 as opposed to the 360 because of the Blu-Ray drive.  That's definitely not a selling point either.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/848426"><b>rideboarder</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gate1975mlm <A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3!  </DIV>and by the end of 2008 there will be a new Xbox out that will spank the PS3.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:11:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/930918"><b>Jonbo298</b></A> : Well duh, if there was 4 millino that would happen too. But Sony had to deal with a little thing called manufacturing problems on their spiffy new technology and well..its gonna bite them for awhile until blue diodes are more easily to get ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><b>gate1975mlm</b></A> : By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3! Xbox 360 will not even be in the same league as PS3! Trust me on this :)<br><br>I am talking about First party games of course.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><b>gate1975mlm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Jonbo298 <A HREF="/useremail/u/930918"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>It sold fast in japan because there was only 80,000 to go around ;)<br> </DIV>If there were 180,000 they would be gone too!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:56:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/930918"><b>Jonbo298</b></A> : It sold fast in japan because there was only 80,000 to go around ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/141383"><b>Karl Bode</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>By the way the PS3 is selling really fast in Japen! Its going to be HUGE!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There's like 80k total being shipped to that country, it better sell <I>"huge"</I>.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/485960"><b>gate1975mlm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  DiscardedVet <A HREF="/useremail/u/1185141"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>     :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  SRFireside <A HREF="/useremail/u/290667"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>wake me up when they actually do some testing. <br> </DIV> <br>Don't wake me up until the prices are doable.<br><br>$600 ........for a GAME !! jeez<br><br>DV<br> </DIV>No try $600 for a Bluray player and gaming system! And you can surf the net with it so its even sort of a computer. $600 sounds like a good deal to me.<br><br>Please show me where you can buy a Bluray player for under $600?<br><br>By the way the PS3 is selling really fast in Japen! Its going to be HUGE!<br><br>Xbox fan boys better get used to it :) PS3 is the new king of gaming!!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1185141"><b>DiscardedVet</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  SRFireside <A HREF="/useremail/u/290667"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>wake me up when they actually do some testing. <br> </DIV> <br>Don't wake me up until the prices are doable.<br><br>$600 ........for a GAME !! jeez<br><br>DV<br><SMALL>--<br>Bush is the Prez....Think Patriot Act II....This outspoken dissident....In jail I'll be soon.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:42:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/290667"><b>SRFireside</b></A> : Tell me about it. Yawn... wake me up when they actually do some testing. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:30:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1189442"><b>Techman21</b></A> : This aught to be an interesting take on the both.  Although if you check out the article they are still testing, so there isn't really any new news other than they had some needed to get used to the new menu system.<br><br>Woot 1st post.]]></description>
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