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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna in Wireless Service Providers</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:53:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1219823"><b>lutful</b></A> : Here are various Ethernet baseband spectrum. Properly twisted CAT5 cable has 50-100dB VHF rejection.<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/17271915?c=1087316&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNzI3MTkxNS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="120210 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=560 HEIGHT=462 SRC="/r0/download/1087316~2b79939c4a46b87091ac90c0039b9cdf/ethernet_spectrum.jpg"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/17271915?c=1087317&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNzI3MTkxNS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="92119 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=472 HEIGHT=445 SRC="/r0/download/1087317~2ed4dc9f6abbdf163c55abfe90d01f9c/ethernet_rf_coupling.jpg"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:50:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17271691</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  lutful <A HREF="/useremail/u/1219823"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  sporkme <A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR>Curious, what's the spectrum that ethernet uses (100MB FE)?</DIV>Fast Ethernet transmission uses 125Mbps "raw" data rate which is carried in a 62.5Mhz "MLT-3" waveform.<br></DIV>So you're saying that ethernet is centered at 62.5 MHz or goes from "0"-62.5MHz?<br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  lutful <A HREF="/useremail/u/1219823"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>There is not much VHF coming out of properly twisted portions of the cable - most noise is coupled in the small untwisted section near the connectors.<br> </DIV>I was thinking more about RF from other sources getting into the ethernet cable and providing a hard to diagnose failure or near-failure.<br><br>So anything with a strong harmonic that lands somewhere below 100MHz could be bad news, right?  Technically, ethernet is RF, correct?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:28:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1128197"><b>wispman</b></A> : One time I had an ethernet cable I put in at an install that ran across a desk and it went right by a police scanner.  The scanner "keyed up" and was locked on something like 150-160mhz.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:46:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17265924</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1219823"><b>lutful</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  sporkme <A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>Curious, what's the spectrum that ethernet uses (100MB FE)?</DIV>Fast Ethernet transmission uses 125Mbps "raw" data rate which is carried in a 62.5Mhz "MLT-3" waveform.<br><br>There is not much VHF coming out of properly twisted portions of the cable - most noise is coupled in the small untwisted section near the connectors.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:42:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17265878</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/914343"><b>AMD Phreak</b></A> : I think isnt it like 100MHz?<br><br>Personally I dont chance it.  I use STP for all tower installs due to the fact of there is so much RF where our gear is.<br><br>The big sticks are hard to get away from.  You just have to do your best. I can check with the RF engineer and see what he thinks, in the AM.  It shouldnt be all too bad though.  I have put some 4.9GHz equipment next (4' above) to a high power 900MHz transmitter (500 or some watts) and didnt have a problem<br><SMALL>--<br>Using a non-ports-system OS is like masturbating with a cheese grater<br><BR><br>"No job is so important, and no service is so urgent that we cannot take the time to do it safely."<br>-- AT&T</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:06:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17265802</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  AMD Phreak <A HREF="/useremail/u/914343"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>Go as far as you can, but more importantly run STP to the radios, that is if they are on the tower. </DIV>Curious, what's the spectrum that ethernet uses (100MB FE)?  Any harmonics from nearby transmitters to look out for (meaning, do any "common" VHF bands perhaps disrupt ethernet with one of their harmonics)?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 01:31:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/959182"><b>keefe007</b></A> : How close have you mounted to VHF? The problem is that this antenna is near 15/20 feet tall so it's hard to avoid.  It is one of those whip antennas with little ears hanging off.  I would be mounting 3 120 degree 2.4 sector antennas on a pole roughly 1.5 feet horizontally away from it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:41:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17265323</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/914343"><b>AMD Phreak</b></A> : Go as far as you can, but more importantly run STP to the radios, that is if they are on the tower.  Overall, it shouldnt be affected, I have experience with stuff being next to VHF, UHF, and high-power 900MHz paging and have not had any issues.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:29:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Min Distance from VHF Antenna</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17264785</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/959182"><b>keefe007</b></A> : What's the minimum separation I should have between a 2.4 cluster and a 150 Mhz VHF antenna? Can they be in the same plane?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:58:59 EDT</pubDate>
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