UN is Worthless in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17285857 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:15:45 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:15:45 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17291755 pnh102 :
said by ieolus See Profile :

Wait, you talking the UN or the US government?
The US government does more good for more people in the world in one minute than the UN has done in 60 years.
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"Speak for yourself "Chadmaster" - lesopp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17290277 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:07:04 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17288061 matrix3D : I'd be willing to bet when electricity was invented there were still some people saying "What do we need this for? Candles and fire work just fine."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17288061 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:11:05 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17287557 Midak : To the anon: Your seeing it all wrong and looking too far ahead. Think of it as building a house. You start with the foundation because that is what will keep the house standing. You don't roll into the dirt and drop a line of fiber optic cable and say this will build you up and get you going. "Yeah, until you get bricks and lumber, you can at least sit in the dirt and download porn."
Once you have a solid structure, then you bring in your utilities, not before.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17287557 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:42:16 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17287291 broadbander :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by nasadude See Profile :

you don't think broadband is important?
No. And broadband is certainly not as important as feeding the hungry, helping the poor to not be poor, disarming terrorist groups, not raping the vulnerable, steering clear of bribes from corrupt governments, and protecting human rights. All of these things are what the UN is supposed to be doing.
Is electricity a utility? How about transporation systems?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17287291 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:55:47 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17286719 anon : Their argument would be that the two are related. In order to be able to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads people need to participate fully in the economy. The concern is not just with providing charity to feed and house people, but with creating the conditions that allow them to become self-sufficient. If you want people to be able to become self sufficient they have to have access to the tools of the modern economy and an increasingly important tool is communications access. Societies without the proper communications and transportation infrastructure generally remain societies that are perpetually economically backward and isolated.

Obviously this is complicated by the many other reasons that people may be economically isolated, including things like wars, perverse and corrupt governments etc., but I don't think the failure of the UN to solve global poverty and war necessarily renders their argument illegitimate. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17286719 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:26:29 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17286500 Midak :
said by nasadude See Profile :

you a luddite or somthin'?

I agree the UN can and should be doing all those things you mention, but I hate to tell ya, broadband is the future whether you believe it or not.
Sorry but without all those other things, those people have no future that broadband could create. Also, you would be hard pressed to find a luddite on this site.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17286500 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:36:32 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17286161 wifi4milez :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

This is an agency that can't feed the hungry, can't enrich the poor, can't disarm terrorist groups, rapes the vulnerable, takes bribes from dictators in trouble and puts oppressive states in charge of human rights.

Aside from lacking the legal authority to make such a proclamation, what moral authority does it have to make such a statement?
I was about to make a similar post until I saw yours. I cant agree more, the UN is like the ACLU of the international world. All either of them do is go around stirring up trouble, yet (THANKFULLY) neither of them has the far reaching powers they seek. The UN should be disbanded immediately. They are honestly a worthless bunch of idiots that cant get anything done. They send "peace keeping" soldiers into the most dangerous areas of the world and then prohibit them from engaging rapists, murderers, and terrorists who commit crimes right in front of them. If the UN decides to step up to the plate and actually create a military deterrence and do something for once, then I might consider revising my statement. Lets not forget the billions of dollars they waste "talking" about world issues and then doing nothing about them.
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said by nasadude See Profile :

you a luddite or somthin'?
What's more important? Paying for broadband or making a mortgage payment? If I had to choose between the two, I will guarantee that keeping a roof over my head is a wee bit more important than broadband.
said by nasadude See Profile :

that's why I think the U.S. will eventually suffer in the world community if we don't get our sheeit together about making real broadband available thruout the country.
And in the meantime, anyone who wants broadband in the USA is free to do what I did and move to where the broadband is. People who willingly choose to move to an unserved area have no one to blame but themselves for their predicaments.
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I agree the UN can and should be doing all those things you mention, but I hate to tell ya, broadband is the future whether you believe it or not.

that's why I think the U.S. will eventually suffer in the world community if we don't get our sheeit together about making real broadband available thruout the country.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17285995 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:58:26 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17285891 pnh102 :
said by nasadude See Profile :

you don't think broadband is important?
No. And broadband is certainly not as important as feeding the hungry, helping the poor to not be poor, disarming terrorist groups, not raping the vulnerable, steering clear of bribes from corrupt governments, and protecting human rights. All of these things are what the UN is supposed to be doing.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17285891 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:35:50 EDT Re: UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17285867 nasadude : you don't think broadband is important?

or you don't want third world countries clogging up our tubes?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17285867 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:29:48 EDT UN is Worthless http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17285857 pnh102 : This is an agency that can't feed the hungry, can't enrich the poor, can't disarm terrorist groups, rapes the vulnerable, takes bribes from dictators in trouble and puts oppressive states in charge of human rights.

Aside from lacking the legal authority to make such a proclamation, what moral authority does it have to make such a statement?
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