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snipper_cr
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL

reply to Gary2oo5

Re: Blu-ray

I agree, the current HDCP is rediculus. Why can I not just go out, by a 5.25 blue ray drive, put it into my computer and enjoy the content? My computer has no problem displaying HD... I get free HD over the air and it displays no problems (HDTV Wonder, Socket 478 system, X850 graphics card, LCD monitor via DVI but also once was by VGA).

Yet they want to only be DVI, special graphics cards, special cables and special monitors?
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Serenity Day - June 23rd 2006. You Can't Stop the Signal


Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26



They want it to be stored on their systems so they have control and you have squat, like allways. That way, you have to pay every time you play instead of just getting out your backup copy and playing it on your own gear.



dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18

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reply to snipper_cr
What?
Can't play BluRay on a Windows machine?

The new Sony machines have BluRay drives built-in, so what's all this garbage about not being able to play on a Windows machine?

»www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSH···cs&var2=

Optical Drive
DVD+-R Double Layer/DVD±RW Drive2 with Blu-Ray Disc Support
DVD+R DL Write: 2.4x max.
DVD+R Write: 8x max.
DVD+RW Write: 4x max.
DVD-R Write: 8x max.
DVD-RW Write: 4x max.
CD-R Write: 8x max.
CD-RW Write: 8x max.
DVD±RW: Yes
CD Read: 24x max.
DVD Read: 8x max.
DVD-RAM Write: 5x max.
DVD-R DL Write: 2x max.
BD-R Read: 1x max.
BD-R Write: 1x max.
BD-RE Write: 1x max.
BD-ROM Read: 1.6x max.
BD-RE Read: 1x max.
BD-R DL Read: 1x max.
BD-R DL Write: 1x. max
DVD-RAM Read: 5x max.
Blu-Ray Disc Support: Yes
BD-RE DL Read: 1 max.
BD-RE DL Write: 1x max.

It even WRITES to a BluRay disc!

This is a laptop BTW!

NOTE: Sony Laptops come with - Windows!

Operating System
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 with Update Rollup 2
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Think outside the Fox... Opera



snipper_cr
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL

I am not saying Windows has anything to do with it, I am saying the hardware has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Wounderful, SONY has THEIR laptop playing BD. What about new rigs, or anything else? Just an upgrade to a regular desktop rig? Completely impossible at this point in time even though with most hardware can play HD content without breaking a sweat.
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Serenity Day - June 23rd 2006. You Can't Stop the Signal



dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18

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said by snipper_cr:

Wounderful, SONY has THEIR laptop playing BD. What about new rigs, or anything else? Just an upgrade to a regular desktop rig? Completely impossible at this point in time even though with most hardware can play HD content without breaking a sweat.
Newegg is your friend!

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···27131034

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···27131365

External drive:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···27154038

Acer Laptop!
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···34115269

Ok, you were saying?
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Think outside the Fox... Opera


snipper_cr
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL

Really? I thought Google was my friend... Oh wait, thats FAQs. I NEVER knew such a place like newegg existed! Oh heavenly figure, thou art a bounty of knowledge, please continue to share! /sarcasm

Anyways, yes, there are drives. But the HARDWARE (read my previous posts) is still not compatable. You need a graphics card with HDCP, a monitor which supports it and porper software. THATS the part I am complaining about.

All nice that I could put a 600 dollar drive in my computer but when my current setup cannot support it... no point?

So, as I was saying before the quick triggered neweggage, most computers are quite capable of rendering and displaying High Deffinition content, however, the HDCP HD Content (Which blue ray, I remind you, is) is a much more difficult story. I beleive there are a VERY select few nVidia cards and currently (maybe?) no ATI cards that support HDCP.
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Serenity Day - June 23rd 2006. You Can't Stop the Signal



dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18

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It is NOT completely impossible.

It is possible, just that you(and I) do not want to fork out the cash to make it possible!

I suggest you check the external USB2 drive!

»www.nu-global.com/1_english/3_pr···p?pID=72

For PC or Notebook
- Compatible Pentium III 1GHz or faster processor
- Recommend Windows 2000/XP operating system
- 128MB RAM or higher recommended
- USB2.0 interface

For Macintosh
- Power PC Processor (G3,G4,or G4 Dual)
- System recommended Mac OS 10.2 or above
- At least 128MB RAM

Damn near a Grand, but it *IS* possible!

WIth all that has been said, it is BS that there will be HDCP cards and monitors.
No worries here though... I'll just get a new VAIO!
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Think outside the Fox... Opera



lucky644
Premium
join:2002-02-04

reply to snipper_cr

said by snipper_cr:

I beleive there are a VERY select few nVidia cards and currently (maybe?) no ATI cards that support HDCP.
My $700 (2001) Radeon 9700 Pro says it is HDCP compatible.

My new ('budget') card, which is a Geforce 7300 GT also says it is HDCP compatible.


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

I am more interested in a Blu-ray drive for the storage space on the individual disks. But like everything else in the digital world I'll what for the price to come down.
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The older I get the more I prefer the company of my dogs over that of man kind.



bpx

join:2003-01-25
Saint Augustine, FL

reply to dadkins
hahahaha $699! I know that the original dvd burners for pc's were pretty expensive at the very beginning, but I cant wait until these come down in price that is comparible to the popular NEC DVD burners that are currently around $30.
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Nice guys finish last.



snipper_cr
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL

reply to Transmaster
I wounder how long BD burned media lasts... I know CDs are around 5-10 years...
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Serenity Day - June 23rd 2006. You Can't Stop the Signal


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