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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA

reply to BF69

Re: Hardly surprising - allofmp3 was a pirate outfit

said by BF69:

If some country says that child porn is ok does that make it ok for Americans to view it then if the website is base in that country? No of course not.
Looks as if those porn laws in other countries are about to change.
»www.cwfa.org/articles/11891/BLI/···ndex.htm
said by BF69:

Why anyone would give money and personal info to a RUSSIAN website is beyond me. .ru is synomomous with SCAMS. I have any e-mail I get that has .ru in it to automatically be discarded before it even reaches my inbox. Sometimes people are idiots. Anyone that bought from them deserves to have their bank accounts and credit cards drianed dry.
All the pirate site has to do, is hand over the names and CC#'s, IP addresses of people who made on line purchases to avoid costly lawsuits or prosecution. Guess, we'll see how much honor there is among thiefs.

This will be the RIAA's wet dream come true. Don't fret, the RIAA will drain many bank accounts of allofmp3 users.When the RIAA comes a knockin', those people won't be a rockin' for long.

As corrupt as Russia is, they will not allow anything to curtail WTO membership. Putin would kick his own mother overboard, along with every user of and including allofmp3, in a heartbeat for WTO status.
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power.

BPLSUCKS9

join:2006-04-26
Grand Ledge, MI

Nice that you use an article that is very biased twords judeo-christian beliefs. I love the anti-abortion and anti-choice bit at the end of it. Try and use unbiased news articles and not psuedo-news with opinions interjected.



pb5k
Can't Triforce
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join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ

reply to guitarzan

said by guitarzan:

All the pirate site has to do, is hand over the names and CC#'s, IP addresses of people who made on line purchases to avoid costly lawsuits or prosecution. Guess, we'll see how much honor there is among thiefs.
Hate to burst your bubble, but the Russkys don't have any credit card numbers. Their credit card payments were processed through a respectable company in the Netherlands, IIRC, and they won't be handing over any CC numbers lest they betray the trust of their users.
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"When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.'" --
Theodore Roosevelt


tapeloop
Not bad at all, really.
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reply to guitarzan

said by guitarzan:

As corrupt as Russia is, they will not allow anything to curtail WTO membership. Putin would kick his own mother overboard, poison his own mother with radioactive polonium along with every user of and including allofmp3, in a heartbeat for WTO status.
Fixed it for ya.
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I cannot stand demagoguery. If you disagree with my stance, you're a blithering twit. You're not a twit, are you?


guitarzan
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Skytop, PA

reply to BPLSUCKS9

said by BPLSUCKS9:

Nice that you use an article that is very biased twords judeo-christian beliefs.
Thank you

I would not use biased opinions, passed off as "news" that rejects Christian beliefs or promotes immoral decadent lifestyle, which opposes Christianity.

I understand, your hurt feelings when a " obviously biased" messenger like that, delivers the news of truth.
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power.


guitarzan
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Skytop, PA

reply to pb5k

said by pb5k:

Hate to burst your bubble, but the Russkys don't have any credit card numbers. Their credit card payments were processed through a respectable company in the Netherlands, IIRC, and they won't be handing over any CC numbers lest they betray the trust of their users.
The Russians may not have credit card numbers.?

Can you rule out, with certainty, there are no Russians or Russian mafia, handling credit card accounts in that respectable company in the Netherlands.?

I guess, we'll have to wait and see the results, when that rickety house of cards topple.
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power.


pb5k
Can't Triforce
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join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ

said by guitarzan:

The Russians may not have credit card numbers.?

Can you rule out, with certainty, there are no Russians or Russian mafia, handling credit card accounts in that respectable company in the Netherlands.?

I guess, we'll have to wait and see the results, when that rickety house of cards topple.
That's purely conjecture. I don't know why so many people assume the Russian mafia is involved whenever a business starts up there, it seems like a knee jerk reaction. I haven't found any evidence that the Russian mob is behind allofmp3 at all.

Anyway, prior to Visa and Mastercard's ban, the Dutch company that processed allofmp3's payments was Chronopay; you can judge their validity for yourself - Visa and Mastercard seem to respect them. But it seems like a lot of trouble for Russians to incorporate a company in the Netherlands just to process their own payments.
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"When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.'" --
Theodore Roosevelt


scrummie02
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reply to guitarzan
so the only legitimate businesses are ones based in the US?
By the same token, whose to say there isn't any Sicilian mafia handling CC numbers of on-line businesses based in the US? Can you say that there isn't with all certainty?
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA

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Re: Hardly surprising - allofmp3 was a pirate outfit

said by scrummie02:

so the only legitimate businesses are ones based in the US?
You're trying to imply something I have not said. If allofmp3 is really legit, Russia should defend a business contributing to its economy. Yet we see a post like this which suggests otherwise.

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said by kamm:when something is making so much money - it's #2 or #3 shop in the Western World - it takes only few months to set it up in some other form, somewhere else.
Why would a legit business, need to set up shop, by moving to a different country?
said by scrummie02:

By the same token, whose to say there isn't any Sicilian mafia handling CC numbers of on-line businesses based in the US? Can you say that there isn't with all certainty?
The Sicilian mafia , or La Cosa Nostra has a vast enterprise, that is far reaching. All I can say with certainty, is no one knows, and those who do, are not talking.

Perhaps the RIAA, knows with certainty, whether or not any Sicilians, who have a vow of omertà, have a allofmp3 type web site in Italy selling mp3's.
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power.


tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to guitarzan
So what if they handed over CC info/Address, etc..? Maybe you should do a little looking into import laws.. You may find that buying from importers is a pretty benign process. But then again, reading your post brings this little saying to mind. "Sometimes it's best to sit there and look like a fool then open your mouth and prove you are one". Please post your bases/links to back up that downloaders were breaking ANY law.

»www.informationweek.com/news/sho···96600636


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