Re: In other news, dog bites man in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17407827 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:34:17 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:34:17 EDT Re: In other news, dog bites man http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17413400 cdru :
said by kamm See Profile :

It quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, walks like a duck then how should we call it?
A witch! Burn them!
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By that definition, then every campaign contribution is a bribe.


Ayup, you are beginning to see the light grasshopper.

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17412335 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:22:33 EDT Re: In other news, dog bites man http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17412050 operagost : By that definition, then every campaign contribution is a bribe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17412050 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:34:01 EDT Re: In other news, dog bites man http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17411551 karlmarx : "Money changed hands". That statement is true. Thus, it was a BRIBE. By definition, a bribe is money or goods and services changing hands to influence someone/something. AT&T paid money to this 'think tank', in order to get results they wanted. That, by anyone's definition, is a bribe.
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said by kamm See Profile :

said by russotto See Profile :

The Reason Foundation coming out against government-funded projects isn't exactly what I'd call news. They're biased (and admittedly so), but to claim they're acting based on bribes from AT&T is way over the top.
On the contrary it is absolutely proven, see their $100,000 from AT&T and the subsequent "analysis" heavily favoring a position that is sweet candy for AT&T.
It quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, walks like a duck then how should we call it? :uhh:
Perhaps you didn't see the linked article where it reminds us that AT&T is a provider for the large Utah muni Utopia project, among others:

»www.muniwireless.com/newsletter/nr157.html
»www.muniwireless.com/newsletter/nr150.html

It's hardly "proof" that AT&T is "bribing" the Reason Foundation to oppose muni broadband when they're profiting from it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17410682 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:51:21 EDT Re: In other news, dog bites man http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407827 Steve :
said by kamm See Profile :

On the contrary it is absolutely proven, see their $100,000 from AT&T and the subsequent "analysis" heavily favoring a position that is sweet candy for AT&T.
It quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, walks like a duck then how should we call it? :uhh:
Perhaps if you had been following the Reason Foundation's positions for the last 20 years you would know that this was the completely predictable position by people who steadfastly value liberty and see increased government as a threat to that (even when the people want it).

There are plenty of places where the analysis follows the funding, but here it's the other way around.

Steve
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It quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, walks like a duck then how should we call it?


We should call it dead. I like duck hunting with my 12 Guage Browning.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407535 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:11:10 EDT Re: In other news, dog bites man http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407519 operagost : Correlation does not prove causation.

Money changed hands, but it can't be labeled a "bribe" unless you have other evidence to the fact.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407519 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:07:05 EDT Re: In other news, dog bites man http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407494 kamm :
said by russotto See Profile :

The Reason Foundation coming out against government-funded projects isn't exactly what I'd call news. They're biased (and admittedly so), but to claim they're acting based on bribes from AT&T is way over the top.
On the contrary it is absolutely proven, see their $100,000 from AT&T and the subsequent "analysis" heavily favoring a position that is sweet candy for AT&T.
It quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, walks like a duck then how should we call it? :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407494 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:02:29 EDT In other news, dog bites man http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407420 russotto : The Reason Foundation coming out against government-funded projects isn't exactly what I'd call news. They're biased (and admittedly so), but to claim they're acting based on bribes from AT&T is way over the top. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17407420 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:48:22 EDT