 kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | reply to wifi4milez
Re: Cingular HSDPA is fine here. said by wifi4milez:said by kamm:said by compuwizz:The rest of the world uses 2100 MHz and another frequency for uploads that I can't remember right now. Cingular uses 850 and 1900 MHz, and tmobile will use 2100 MHz and another frequency which makes it not compatible with other world HSDPA phones. This article explains it better. » www.phonescoop.com/articles/aws/Therefore it has nothing to do with SIM cards if the phones themselves won't work on the networks due to technological issues. Exactly, that's why the original point had nothing to do with Cingular. As if you buy a worldphone you can use it anywhere and so can do the same in case of HSDPA. said by kamm:said by compuwizz:The rest of the world uses 2100 MHz and another frequency for uploads that I can't remember right now. Cingular uses 850 and 1900 MHz, and tmobile will use 2100 MHz and another frequency which makes it not compatible with other world HSDPA phones. This article explains it better. » www.phonescoop.com/articles/aws/Therefore it has nothing to do with SIM cards if the phones themselves won't work on the networks due to technological issues. Exactly, that's why the original point had nothing to do with Cingular. As if you buy a worldphone you can use it anywhere and so can do the same in case of HSDPA. They dont currently make any true 3G worldphones. Such a device would need to be 5 or 6 band (I get confused with all the frequencies being used!). While there are a number of phones that work for voice everywhere, nobody has even attempted to make one with multiple 3G frequencies. Ummm newsflash: my HTC TyTn supports 7 different mode/freq combinations: UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz and GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz with GPRS and EDGE. |
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | said by kamm:Ummm newsflash: my HTC TyTn supports 7 different mode/freq combinations: UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz and GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz with GPRS and EDGE. Quick summary:
US: Virtually no support for UMTS, and it is going away.
Europe: Support for UMTS, markets being upgraded to HSDPA
Asia: EVDO and CDMA variants, small support for UMTS. HSDPA upgrades in progress.
HTC TyTN:
No HSDPA support.
Lets recap. Your phone can make voice calls everywhere, but pretty much only allows for 3G services in Europe. Nice, really nice! 
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
2 edits | said by wifi4milez:said by kamm:Ummm newsflash: my HTC TyTn supports 7 different mode/freq combinations: UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz and GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz with GPRS and EDGE. Quick summary: US: Virtually no support for UMTS, and it is going away. Well I can see why you are posting these clueless comments - you decide not to look at the fact... FYI: HSDPA is and upgraded UMTS and quite contrary to your beliefs it's coming up here, in the US: Cingular is expanding and TMO is slated to start late next SUmmer.
Europe: Support for UMTS, markets being upgraded to HSDPA
Which is the same UMTS network, and also for my HSDPA phone, yes.
Asia: EVDO and CDMA variants, small support for UMTS. HSDPA upgrades in progress.
Supported by my phone, yes.
HTC TyTN: No HSDPA support. Lets recap. Your phone can make voice calls everywhere, but pretty much only allows for 3G services in Europe. Nice, really nice!
You know it looks really pretty silly when one is trying to be sarcastic without checking the facts first and turns out to be completely false - should I say embarrassing...? |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | said by kamm:Well I can see why you are posting these clueless comments - you decide not to look at the fact... FYI: HSDPA is and upgraded UMTS and quite contrary to your beliefs it's coming up here, in the US: Cingular is expanding and TMO is slated to start late next SUmmer. SIGH, wrong again "Kamm". UMTS devices are NOT compatible with HSDPA.
said by kamm:Ouch. TyTn IS an HSDPA phone./ You know it looks really pretty silly when one is trying to be sarcastic without checking the facts first and turns out to be completely false - should I say embarrassing...? BZZZZZTTT! Wrong again. Your phone is UMTS, NOT HSDPA! Good luck using it here in the States pal. Here is a direct quote from the HTC product page:
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Full connectivity with Tri-Band UMTS, Quad-Band EDGE, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
»www.europe.htc.com/products/htctytn.html
»mobilitytoday.com/articles/htcty···ook.html
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | said by wifi4milez:said by kamm:Well I can see why you are posting these clueless comments - you decide not to look at the fact... FYI: HSDPA is and upgraded UMTS and quite contrary to your beliefs it's coming up here, in the US: Cingular is expanding and TMO is slated to start late next SUmmer. SIGH, wrong again "Kamm". UMTS devices are NOT compatible with HSDPA. said by kamm:Ouch. TyTn IS an HSDPA phone./ You know it looks really pretty silly when one is trying to be sarcastic without checking the facts first and turns out to be completely false - should I say embarrassing...? BZZZZZTTT! Wrong again. Your phone is UMTS, NOT HSDPA! Good luck using it here in the States pal. Here is a direct quote from the HTC product page: quote:
Full connectivity with Tri-Band UMTS, Quad-Band EDGE, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
Ahhh, not again... HSDPA IS LISTED AS UMTS. If you don't understand it, read reference pages:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
"An evolution of the UMTS standard, HSDPA achieves the increase in the data transfer speeds..."
»www.gsmworld.com/technology/3g/e···on.shtml
»www.umtsworld.com/technology/hsdpa.htm
Jesus, wifi.. you didn't bother yourself to read your own link first, did you?
"With the slide-out Qwerty keypad, HSDPA capabilities and a plethora of other connectivity options, this is definitely a Pocket PC to be reckoned with."
For God sake, man: I AM USING HSDPA @1.0-1.2Mb/s EVERY DAY, all the time, here in NYC.
Pull yourself together, man - when you're wrong at least know when to remain silent... |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | PS: if you want I can post some test result later today - but until then look what I've just found: »www.howardforums.com/showthread.···3&page=1 |
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