UMTS and HSDPA are separate from one another. One can have a UMTS network without HSDPA, and one can have an HSDPA network without UMTS. Rogers up here is migrating their entire GSM network to UMTS as part of the HSDPA rollout, as UMTS handles the RF side a -lot- better than stock GSM. -- Bigot - Someone that has won an argument with a Liberal. Yes, I CanChat. Can You?www.fiberal.ca