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texans20
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join:2002-09-28
Texas!

Great News!

This is good news for many reasons:

1. If I build a fiber network, I shouldn't have to share my network.

2. Why should I be forced to say network all the city's stoplights to monitor traffic as part of my agreement to offer service. If I open a pizza place, I'm not forced to offer free pizza to the mayor.

3. It will increase competition and lower costs.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

said by texans20:

This is good news for many reasons:

...

3. It will increase competition and lower costs.
Well, it will increase the number of wireline companies offering TV from one company to two; some people call this competition, others call it a duopoly.

It may lower costs in the short run, but in the long run it will probably stabilize and both cablecos and telcos will settle into a nice routine of regular, yearly increases just like we have now. Verizon has already increased the price of TV service in some markets.

dcaponegro5

join:2005-07-22
New Hope, PA

reply to texans20
And it will increase property taxes on the already overtaxed middle class.

Local governments are not just going to say, 'well, we wanted to do this project, and we were hoping to get verizon to subsidize the projecct, but now we don't have the money, so we will just scrap that plan'.

No, they are going to go after Joe and Jane Middle Class to get the money. The projects are not just going to go away, because that money was slated to go to their powerful friends who own the big companies they contracted to do the work.

Who gives a cr@p about Comcast or Verizon. Let them coninue to play the muni game as it has been done for many years without problems.



Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA

reply to nasadude
So you'd rather have a monopoly instead of a duopoly?

Also, didn't BellSouth just reduce their internet prices on the top-tier yesterday? And didn't they reduce prices on the other tiers a few months ago?

Sweeping generalizations are fine ... as long as they're accurate...

Adam



AtlGuy

join:2000-10-17
Marietta, GA

What does Bellsouth dropping their DSL prices have to do with TV prices?

I personally didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Verizon DID just raise their TV prices and cable seems to do it yearly.


cwh

join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX

said by AtlGuy:

What does Bellsouth dropping their DSL prices have to do with TV prices?

I personally didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Verizon DID just raise their TV prices and cable seems to do it yearly.
maybe because they need better return on their investment? Fios is great, but it is also damn expensive.

cwh

join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX

reply to dcaponegro5

said by dcaponegro5:

And it will increase property taxes on the already overtaxed middle class.

Local governments are not just going to say, 'well, we wanted to do this project, and we were hoping to get verizon to subsidize the projecct, but now we don't have the money, so we will just scrap that plan'.

No, they are going to go after Joe and Jane Middle Class to get the money. The projects are not just going to go away, because that money was slated to go to their powerful friends who own the big companies they contracted to do the work.

Who gives a cr@p about Comcast or Verizon. Let them coninue to play the muni game as it has been done for many years without problems.
They are paying for it anyway though higher cable costs. Those services given to the city are not free.


Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL

reply to texans20
That's nice, so what about the bad news?


cwh

join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX

reply to nasadude

said by nasadude:

said by texans20:

This is good news for many reasons:

...

3. It will increase competition and lower costs.
Well, it will increase the number of wireline companies offering TV from one company to two; some people call this competition, others call it a duopoly.

It may lower costs in the short run, but in the long run it will probably stabilize and both cablecos and telcos will settle into a nice routine of regular, yearly increases just like we have now. Verizon has already increased the price of TV service in some markets.
A duopoly is still better than monopoly conditions. If you have an option of 2, the companies have to compete on price,service and feature. Under monopoly conditions, you get what you get.

Broadband conditions are duopoly in most places and prices are stable(far cheaper than they used to be) and speeds are increasing.


kpfx

join:2005-10-28
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to Alpine
You’re comparing two totally different services...

There are a lot of external factors that contribute to the rise in video rates and Verizon is not immune to it. With a video service you’re at the whim of your content providers (Disney, Fox, MTV/Viacom, etc). There’s been plenty of discussion on this elsewhere but essentially if the content costs continue to rise (as it has so far) then it always trickles down to the consumer.

Internet services, however, are very different. The only substantial external cost an ISP has is with their POP. The prices for access at a Tier-2 POP are more public and have only gone down over the years, hence the downward trend in internet prices.



texans20
Premium
join:2002-09-28
Texas!

reply to dcaponegro5

said by dcaponegro5:

And it will increase property taxes on the already overtaxed middle class.

Local governments are not just going to say, 'well, we wanted to do this project, and we were hoping to get verizon to subsidize the projecct, but now we don't have the money, so we will just scrap that plan'.

No, they are going to go after Joe and Jane Middle Class to get the money. The projects are not just going to go away, because that money was slated to go to their powerful friends who own the big companies they contracted to do the work.

Who gives a cr@p about Comcast or Verizon. Let them coninue to play the muni game as it has been done for many years without problems.
If AT&T builds IPTV in my neighborhood, how does this raise my taxes? My city isn't going to be paying AT&T to come in and lay cable, nor are they paying for the cable. What this no longer does is allow my city to rape AT&T for either money or other nonsense provisions. In America, any legit business should be able to do business in any place with minimum government intervention.

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