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 meskinctMad Scientist at WorkPremium
join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT | reply to Rick
Re: Wait Just a minute.... Rick, why are you so down on U-Verse? Just curious. | |
 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | said by meskinct:Rick, why are you so down on U-Verse? Just curious. Several reasons. I'll list them.
1) I really doubt it even works. I think that the problems inherent in a last mile old copper telco wire network are too great for this service to be rolled out in any meaningful way. That's not to say that SOME won't be able to get it. But consider today how many people are still only able to get the lowest tier dsl service, or that can even get DSL at all. How then do people think that in any meaningful way, over those SAME last mile copper lines that will suddenly get expanded to HDTV..HSI and Voice?
2)EVEN if it does get rolled out to a large number of people, which judging by the time it's taken to just get to 7 markets this year..(if they're even in those)..What will the service be in comparison to the competition then?
ALREADY..Comcast with powerboost is at 12MB PLUS for HSI speeds. THIS..is AT&T's next generation service..not the service for today. It simply offers little to nothing in comparison to what the cable co's will have by then.
3)Any new service, PARTICULARLY one that is going to go against a long held service such as what the cable co's dominate..had BETTER have something more to offer in terms of service and pricing to really make an entry. I'm hard pressed to see this service doing that against the likes of what comcast and TW already have, much less what they will have with docsis 3.0 and the like. I think uverse is dead out of the gate.
4)AT&T and their landlines are getting slammed by VOIP.
Every quarter, a HUGE number of people are switching to voip and cell. What does AT&T have to compete with?
Some other companies satellite service?
5)COMPETITION drives an increase in service..and a DECREASE in prices. Cable co's are notorious for raising rates. They simply have no fear of what DSL offers today or they wouldn't be pricing their service where it is.
Look at what has happened to long distance rates over the last decade with competition. Look at what is happening in Verizon fios areas now as well.
The cable co's simply do not fear AT&T.
6)What does this mean to those of us in AT&T's service area? It means very weak telco competition versus the likes of Comcast, higher prices because of it. And nothing on the horizon to change that.
7)I've long been a believer in virtually everything in that if you're going to do something, do it right the first time. AT&T's solution is a disaster IMHO. It's a waste of not only time, but their shareholders money.
Look at how Verizon is rolling along with their strategy.
THAT..is the one that is working and delivering on the promise of future technology.
8)Conversely, look at AT&T's. How many lawsuits are they in now? How many communities pissed off at them? How many people are EXCITED about uverse coming? I think it's a flop.
9)What does this mean to AT&T themselves? Already, they are well behind the curve. Honestly, I think that cable co's are now positioning themselves to virtually finish them off. How could they do that? How about..FREE phone service for everyone? Comcast could subsidize that today for people taking their HSI and TV service. And already they are doing it with their triple play package.
10)Do you..or anyone..REALLY think that Verizon has it wrong? I think that verizon management sat down and thought about the things i've spoken about above.
And reached the conclusion that they HAD to go with fiber to the home. Or, it was their very survival they were risking. How happy could they have been to spend all this money on this? Not very happy at all. But, they are doing it..because it is the RIGHT answer.
11)AT&T...VERY quickly..needs to start to do the same.
For me..for you..and for themselves.
Rick
ps: hello to my old hometown of Danbury. 
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meskinctMad Scientist at WorkPremium
join:2002-01-07
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| Thanks. I totally agree that fiber to the curb (AT&T) isn't going to cut it. Fiber to the home is the way to go (Verizon). I was just wondering what your angle was.
Hey, you never know how it will turn out. Antique furniture and classic cars are pretty valuable these days. People thought they were old and junk and wanted to throw them all away. But, after a few years, they increase in value. Maybe that's what AT&T is thinking with keeping the copper around. 
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | reply to Rick
It seems the more U-verse rolls out the more you post against it. This is product that is improving and moving forward. The problems at this point do not appear to be in the vdsl or the copper, but the iptv and stb code.
1. The entire point of u-verse is to drastically shorten the copper loops. Lots of new vrads are going in place. This is a point you continue to ignore.
2.It appears they are rapidly accelerating to new markets. They would probably like to be farther along at this point, but they do appear to ready for a nationwide rollout.
3. They do have more to offer. Lower prices and more features. I know i am paying less and getting more.
4. They are losing land lines, but gaining cell lines and broadband. This is not a company in trouble. U-verse voip is not far away either.
5. Judging by the mailers I am getting from TW to get my to switch back, I would say competition is working.
6. See #5
7. I cant argue with that as fiber is the right technical solution, however it remains to be seen if it is the right answer economically. If spends a 1/4 of what verizon does and get the same 15% to switch to a new service, it will be obvious who is providing the best return to their shareholders.
8. so far att has signed 8 statewide agreements for u-verse and they have even got an interim agreement for deploying service in Geneva. I hate to break it to you, people are ready for cable competition.
9. ATT is not going away anytime soon.
10. Technically they are right. However it carries more financial risk than FTTN.
11. See $10 | |
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