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AB
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reply to Buddel

Re: Browser Security Test

said by Buddel:

IE 6 - the browser you can trust!
What's curious about this is one must enable javascripting (a security issue) in order to take the test.
So, in essence, by merely being able to be tested, one is not fully secure.
I'd love to see a vulnerability listed there- "javascripting is enabled."


Buddel
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said by AB:

... one is not fully secure...
One will NEVER be fully secure. No matter what browser, AV, AT, AS etc. you use, 100% security is something you will never achieve, but you can be pretty close to it.


Maxo
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said by Buddel:

100% security is something you will never achieve
Only one way to achieve it. Start->Shutdown (or equivalent on your OS.)


AB
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reply to Buddel

said by Buddel:

said by AB:

... one is not fully secure...
One will NEVER be fully secure. No matter what browser, AV, AT, AS etc. you use, 100% security is something you will never achieve, but you can be pretty close to it.
I absolutely agree with you. Yet having javascipt enabled is one of the ways in which our browsing becomes less secure, is it not?
Just one of those "Catch 22" things, I guess, when you have to lessen your security to test to see if you are secure. But curious nonetheless.


Buddel
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said by AB:

Yet having javascipt enabled is one of the ways in which our browsing becomes less secure, is it not?
I agree.
said by AB:

Just one of those "Catch 22" things, I guess, when you have to lessen your security to test to see if you are secure.
Again, I agree.

mysec
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reply to AB

said by AB:

Yet having javascipt enabled is one of the ways in which our browsing becomes less secure, is it not?

I browse with javascript enabled and I don't feel less secure.

regards,

-rich


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Or Cool Assessments, Common Sense And Practical Planning..."
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AB
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said by mysec:

said by AB:

Yet having javascipt enabled is one of the ways in which our browsing becomes less secure, is it not?

I browse with javascript enabled and I don't feel less secure.
I'm so happy for you.


SpannerITWks
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reply to mysec
mysec

That's because you have some good Apps in place to help prevent infections, plus your skills and alertness. The thing is, Most people out there are not that clued up, so having Scripting enabled in ANY browser, is just One sure way they can and do Keep getting blasted, Often !

Spanner
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I Only Know What I Know, But I'm Learning all The Time - Stay Safe - Spanner intheWorks
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Mele20
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I don't understand advising folks to turn off javascript. Doing that screws up browsing and it is perfectly safe. I have never gotten infected and I have never turned it off. I don't feel scared.



Cudni
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said by Mele20:

I don't understand advising folks to turn off javascript. Doing that screws up browsing and it is perfectly safe. I have never gotten infected and I have never turned it off. I don't feel scared.
Javascript unchecked can be as damaging as activex (in allowing malware/spyware). if still using proxo it is probably filtering a lot of bad code.

Cudni
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Help yourself so God can help you.
MVP, Microsoft Windows Security 2006

mysec
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reply to SpannerITWks

said by SpannerITWks:

The thing is, Most people out there are not that clued up, so having Scripting enabled in ANY browser, is just One sure way they can and do Keep getting blasted, Often !

My favorite quote:

"Just because Hobbs' shoes are too tight, why should my feet hurt?"

Just because statistics show millions getting blasted, why should that happen to me - or the home users I help? It doesn't.

Why should we have to disable useful functions, like js, and deprive ourselves of useful tools, like email attachments?

It doesn't have to be.

regards,

-rich


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Or Cool Assessments, Common Sense And Practical Planning..."
--Bruce Schneier


Buddel
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reply to Mele20

said by Mele20:

I don't understand advising folks to turn off javascript. Doing that screws up browsing and it is perfectly safe.
I don't think it's perfectly safe but I agree that it screws up browsing, so I do not turn off javascript. Maybe I feel a little bit less secure but at least the sites I go to load the way they should, which is one good reason for me not to turn off javascript.

Mele20
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reply to Cudni

said by Cudni:

Javascript unchecked can be as damaging as activex (in allowing malware/spyware). if still using proxo it is probably filtering a lot of bad code.

Cudni
True. But then the advice, seems to me, should be for people to get Proxo with either Sidki's latest or Grypen's configs. I can't imagine surfing the web without Proxo. It is the one application (besides a browser) that I have to have. You do not have to know how to write scripts for it. Just install it with one of the above configs and use the set that the author recommends for beginners.
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