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brianbhsd

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New York, NY

Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :)

Just wanted to tell people not to lose hope..I was able to get a very nice Embarq rep to enable fast path on my line..my first hop dropped from 16-17ms to 7ms , and sequential hops seem to be enjoying benefits as well..overall, my yahoo ping has been reduced from 67ms to 46ms..and gains can be found elsewhere as well..

All is not lost!

FYI I reside in the downtown Naples area

permalink · 2007-01-04 01:18:27 ·

gayle56 join:2004-12-26 California, MO	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) They enabled it for me too!!
	permalink · 2007-01-04 10:31:08 ·

sandavis join:2005-12-17 Rocky Mount, VA	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) What is fast path?
	permalink · 2007-01-04 11:08:56 ·

Maxo Your tax dollars at work. Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL clubs:	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) said by sandavis : What is fast path? »AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »What is meant by 'FastPath' and 'Interleaving'? What is a 'Noise Profile'?
	permalink · 2007-01-04 11:51:57 ·

fastpathis @mo.gov	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) Basically DSL was originally developed to send video over copper so the telco's could compete with cable. It's error checking is interleave which is default. Since DSL is being used for TCP, which has it's own error checking, there is no need for interleave to be on. Hence, fastpath...
	permalink · 2007-01-05 09:43:31 ·

fastpathisgood @mo.gov	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) A for me, it was even better, 47ms to 1st hop, now 11ms
	permalink · 2007-01-05 09:45:29 ·

Sly
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I can't get it enabled. I have already been through it with them to get interleave turned off or the interleave delay reduced... I finally got in touch with a tech who claimed that my line does not support interleave anyway and so there is no way to turn it off since it doesn't even use it. He claimed that they were using a "different kind of technology". I don't know if I believe him or not but my first hop is always about 37ms. Dslreports is never faster than 51ms.
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permalink · 2007-01-05 10:47:17 · Print ·

CPUYODA join:2003-01-25 Johnson City, TN	Im in Gray,and a friendly tech here did for me.... But my first hop is still 40ms....but waaay better than 80. I would cancel my account with them if they turned my interleave back on.
	permalink · 2007-01-05 11:37:43 ·

Sly
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Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :)

Well they toyed around with me some... The first tech I called said he couldn't turn off interleave but that he could reduce the delay. He told me to give it a few minutes and then check to see if it got better. It didn't. I called back and got another tech. I got a run around and he finally said that my line doesn't even use interleave and that it can't be turned off.

Overall my pings are better than they were a few months ago. At least the line is usable but I have seen no improvement at all to my first hop. It's not as good as I had with Comcast but it is better than nothing.

I think Gray has far better service than I have out here in Limestone... I'm about 5 miles from my central office.

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permalink · 2007-01-05 11:52:14 · Print ·

Fox McCloud
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Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :)

said by Sly

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I think Gray has far better service than I have out here in Limestone... I'm about 5 miles from my central office.

wow, consider yourself lucky, I live that distance from the CO, and there's not DSL traveling over any twisted pairs out here....

Anyway, my friend is getting around 80 ms ping times with Embarq...so I'll tell him about this 'fastpath', perhaps it'll help him out when it comes to online gaming, amongst other things.

permalink · 2007-01-05 12:11:56 · Print ·

this is the way @mo.gov	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) Embarq will activate past path if you call in, ask for level 2 support, then say you have VOIP and the lag issues are causing voice drop problems. They have been told not to do it for any other reason(s).
	permalink · 2007-01-05 16:33:37 ·

Someguy

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Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :)

doesn't embarq have 2 types of dslam's which i believe are ad-trans and AFCs

Please correct me if i am wrong
the ad-trans don't support mixed mode when they are placed in mixed mode they cause the card to drop the connections every so often?

the AFCs have no problem with mixed mode but most people on them have fast path as default

at least that's what they told me when i called and i happened to be on the ad-tran dslam which doesn't support fast path

permalink · 2007-01-06 11:21:23 · Print ·

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Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :)

said by Someguy

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at least that's what they told me when i called and i happened to be on the ad-tran dslam which doesn't support fast path

That's it!! Thanks. That is what they told me I was on and that fastpath is not supported. So what does this mean? Does the line use interleave and they can't turn it off or does it do something completely different?
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permalink · 2007-01-06 11:24:34 · Print ·

Someguy join:2006-12-10 Charlottesville, VA ·1and1 ·Dish Network ·Embarq	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) Please correct me if I am wrong right if they put you on fast path the you and the other users on your card will drop like once an hour or something. it has something to do with the cards firm ware if you read here. what I gather from it. fast path should work after adsl 2+ is deployed »DHCP, ADSL2+, Fast Path, and 660 Information
	permalink · 2007-01-06 21:39:30 ·

Suiseiseki join:2006-11-02	said by Someguy : doesn't embarq have 2 types of dslam's which i believe are ad-trans and AFCs Embarq uses about nine different DSLAMs for various purposes. Purposely, I am fond of Ad-Trans and Stingers because they use telnet.
	permalink · 2007-01-08 17:20:35 ·

Someguy join:2006-12-10 Charlottesville, VA	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) thank you for correcting me though am i correct on the Ad-Trans not supporting fastpath at this time, or has that changed?
	permalink · 2007-01-08 17:52:23 ·

Suiseiseki join:2006-11-02	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) I am not sure about the support for fast path in Ad-Trans, though I know they can be set for it. All of them I have worked with though have been set for interleave.
	permalink · 2007-01-09 09:18:43 ·

Someguy join:2006-12-10 Charlottesville, VA	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) oh ok they told me the card would drop the connections
	permalink · 2007-01-09 13:10:59 ·

Suiseiseki join:2006-11-02	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) said by Someguy : oh ok they told me the card would drop the connections That is/was the case. Putting a card into mixed modes, interleave and fast path on the same card could cause connections to be dropped. That is remedied by running the card in only one mode or upgrading the firmware.
	permalink · 2007-01-13 08:49:40 ·

Someguy join:2006-12-10 Charlottesville, VA	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) so that being the case has this problem been fixed or left untouched
	permalink · 2007-01-13 09:11:16 ·

JCMSr

join:2005-05-24
Macon, NC

Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :)

All I could get out of the Embarq guy was that they had "no way of changing me over". Only after I pushed a little further into the type of equipment did he mention adtran. Not sure he really understood everthing since he seemed to be relaying info from the engineer he was working with on the other end.

As to the quality of the equipment lets just say that it took them over 2 months of working on my connection to get it anywhere close to the 5.0 package. Download speeds for the first 2 months were around 2400 at best. After installing either 2 or 3 (sorry I can't remember the exact number) additional T1 lines and correcting a few other problems my service has been rock solid. Given that I live in a very rural area I am just happy to have DSL service period. Three years of dealing with a satellite connection was enought for me.

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permalink · 2007-01-14 17:25:53 · Print ·

Suiseiseki join:2006-11-02	said by Someguy : so that being the case has this problem been fixed or left untouched I do not know the full details on the network group's plans. We do know that firmware is upgraded when it is appropriate.
	permalink · 2007-01-15 01:55:18 ·

JCMSr

join:2005-05-24
Macon, NC

Called Embarq yesterday and complained about lag/voice drop issues on my service using VOIP. Customer rep was very nice, however, I was told that since the equipment at my DSLAM was Ad-Tran there was nothing they could do to help. Current service is setup on interleave and could not be changed. Typical pings to first hop are running typically in the 60-80ms range. Looks like there is not much that can be done to improve my situation.

JCMSr
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permalink · 2007-01-11 09:58:23 · Print ·

hypnotic join:2005-10-11 Millersburg, OH	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) adtrans can be set to fast. im on 1 and ive had it on.
	permalink · 2007-01-11 15:58:26 ·

Someguy join:2006-12-10 Charlottesville, VA	Re: Embarq enabled Fast Path for me! w00t? :) thats what they told me
	permalink · 2007-01-11 16:57:32 ·

Maxo Your tax dollars at work. Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL clubs:	I may be wrong, but I can't imagine a DSLAM not being able to handle fastpath. It must be a shitty DSLAM.
	permalink · 2007-01-11 15:59:29 ·

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